NON-LAAG EVENT (CLHG) N.B 12/5: CHANGED TOPIC: War criminals, refugees & the UK

  • May 14, 2014 · 7:00 PM
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FROM CLHG: Please accept our sincere apologies. John Shook has not been able to travel to the UK for health reasons. The event will still go ahead. 

New speaker details as follows:


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Text from CLHG:


War criminals, refugees and the UK by Brian Moore QPM, BSc, MBA

Genocide, murder, torture, mass-rape and wanton destruction in violent conflicts have shamed the world for millennia and, sadly, continue today.

Yet many people consider war crimes are only committed by a handful of despots whereas the reality is very different. Mass violence requires all the resources of the state – its army, police, prisons, security & intelligence services, civil service, local politicians and business people as well as the connivance of influential institutions. In fact, most war crimes are committed by junior members of the state which suggests, even over the last 25 years in conflicts in the Balkans, Rwanda, Sri Lanka, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria that there are likely to be many thousands – if not hundreds of thousands - of suspected war criminals at large. But what happens to them and where do they go when the regime changes or they are on the losing side?

The UK Home Office reports that there are about 100 ‘suspected war criminals’ known in the UK but research suggests these are only the people who self-declare their presence in the UK.

Brian Moore QPM, former Chief Constable and Director General of the UK Border Force, is the founder of an organisation called Torture Aware UK. He outlines the relevant international treaties which inform the UK’s legal commitments to providing no safe haven for international criminals whilst affording refuge to those facing persecution. Drawing from his research, he critiques the UK’s approach to war criminals and outlines what more should be done, in particular the vital role that communities could play in helping to hold perpetrators to account.

This is a subject suffused with dilemmas about how to achieve justice where a person is a victim or a criminal or sometimes both.

Doors at 6.30 pm for talk at 7.00 p.m.

Please arrive early to have a glass of wine from our charity wine bar find your seat and chat with other members.

Donations to the wine bar will go to John's chosen charity which is the British Humanist Association.

All our talks are open to the general public and free to attend but we ask those who can to make a donation of what they can afford to cover the costs of room and equipment hire and help keep our talks free to all.

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