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Showing God does not exist - good article by Victor Stenger

Georgi L.
Guffaw
London, GB
Post #: 1,866
David S
hyponitrite
Shepperton, GB
Post #: 102
Sorry, Ginny, that article is too simplistic.

"Absence of evidence is evidence of absence"? How does that relate to 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' in his own field of study.

And "religion is based on faith"? Religion is the politics of faith; the route map by which you control the faithful (whatever the faith may be). Just start by making up the rules on sexual behaviour (a must), followed by dress and dietary codes all of which have nothing to do with the faith and end up with the good old rules of social conduct, like 'don't kill people (of this faith)', 'don't try it on with my wife' and so on.

Well meaning, of course, but hardly convincing.

VI
Roger
user 33309642
London, GB
Post #: 331
Just to qualify the "absence of evidence" bit: If there is no evidence when you would reasonably expect it to be present, it's not proof of absence but it makes the original proposition look decidedly dodgy.
Martyn
Maradam
Guildford, GB
Post #: 759
The Abrahamic religions, in fact nearly all religions, are invalid as viable theories because the suppositions they make do not tally with the evidence. Therefore none of those religions is a candidate as a viable theory.

Unless of course, God did create the universe and he was mean enough to trick the scientists by planting false evidence everywhere. In which case God (or whatever) is a mean lying trickster not worthy of our praise in any case.

So either God isn't there or it* is untrustworthy.

* If God created the universe then, by definition, it's an alien creature - an extra-terrestrial and therefore not human. It cannot therefore be called a 'He' as the gender is not the same as ours and unless there's a lady god out there with female bits** and they copulate, then we should call the God IT.

**Which implies that either God evolved with a genomic parasite problem requiring the evolution of sex, or ... God was created by a meta-god***.

*** If Meta-God created God's universe then, by definition, it's a (very) alien creature - an extra-extra-terrestrial and therefore not human in the slightest. It cannot therefore be called a 'He' as the gender is not the same as ours and unless there's a lady meta-god out there with female bits****, and they copulate, then we should call the Meta-God IT.

****<FX: Slap on wrist>
You get the idea.

** <Thinks...> If God IS a 'He', then there must be such a thing as 'God Porn'. Food for thought...
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