RE: [feminism-196] BBC World Service 9pm asks Why are women subservient all over the world? See BBC WS FREEDOM 2014 series on elitism and prejudice.

From: Lisa-Marie Taylor
Sent on: Monday, March 24, 2014 6:21 PM
Admin - whoever you are - please could you let me know that you are monitoring these conversations and help me to understand why this person has not been banned? Anyone who comes on to a feminist site and speaks so hatefully about women should be banned immediately. 

Admin ....?

Lisa-Marie 


Subject: Re: [feminism-196] BBC World Service 9pm asks Why are women subservient all over the world? See BBC WS FREEDOM 2014 series on elitism and prejudice.
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To: [address removed]
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:12:21 -0400

I am low status and humble, it is not denigrating myself to accept reality. I got no ties or burdens to anything, so that means I got quite a few advantaes. 

Yes my mother was a cunt she neglected and abused me. That isn't anything to do with anything though. The fact of the matter was my mother was allowed to abuse me by the diversity trained and feminist inspired social services. The way it was dealt with is a systematic problem, it comes from a pro female culture where women are not held to any standards. I have had personal experences with many different people, I am not writing about them, I am writing about cultural and systematic biases against men. 

I am bitter about my father being driven away because he was disabled. Women hate low status men, they got this arrogant air about them. Yet they plead for help and extra protection from men. If women want equality they have to let go of their privileges and accept being held to the same standards as men. 

When women whine about something people go. "Listen to women, don't silence women!" When men roar in pain and from anger. "Stop being angry, you got personal issues!" 

Nice attempt at invalidating me, won't work. 

Also I am outraged at the unfair in the culture in general against men. I suppose people who hate the police after being beaten and robbed by them are just bitter at being beaten by the police? 

Adam why do you sell your own sex out to women? 


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Adam <[address removed]> wrote:

Yeah your issues with feminists are clearly related to your relationship with your mother. I know someone that lives off benefits and has 2 working wives. So you're totally wrong there. Women will only respect you if people respect you, because weirdly women are people.

I dunno though, personally I get a lot of attention from women, but I think that's mostly because of my charm and boyish good looks. I doubt it's to do with how much money I make, I know guys that are pretty much homeless and live between different women's beds, but they really know what they're doing in that sector. I could make an argument that it's all about the sex for women if I was to apply your logic, but I know that it's impossible to draw anthropological conclusions from limited datasets.

Curious though, clearly you don't have anything going in the charm department, but do you shower often, Alex?

On 24 Mar 2014 13:48, "alex" <[address removed]> wrote:
Nope I am a low status male. I have low social economic status because I was raised by a single mother trash bag who fucked my life chances up. (Thankfully I have managed to repair the damage and I am building up my status.) 

When I gain resources I am going to spend them on myself. I am not going to play the female controlled resource extraction game called romance. 

Of course a lot of women don't even notice me or see me as sub human, as women only see men as providers or useful tool, other aspects of their humanity are not important to women. Women are hypergamous by nature and discard low status men. (Women will not support a lower status man, or even associate with him.) 

Anti feminist because I believe in the radical notion that low status men are human beings too. 

Women are the bourgeois their consumer lifestyle, their relationships with men have all the markings of a privileged caste. Females are the leisure caste, they work less hours, they spend more than men though. 


On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Adam <[address removed]> wrote:

I think it's a male that states he is low.

On 24 Mar 2014 13:23, "Aimee" <[address removed]> wrote:
What the hell is a low status male anyway?


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Subject: RE: [feminism-196] BBC World Service 9pm asks Why are women subservient all over the world? See BBC WS FREEDOM 2014 series on elitism and prejudice.
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 09:21:25 -0400


Britain's next top low status male model


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Subject: Re: [feminism-196] BBC World Service 9pm asks Why are women subservient all over the world? See BBC WS FREEDOM 2014 series on elitism and prejudice.
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 08:18:12 -0400

Is Alex auditioning for something? 

Jean Owen
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On 23 Mar 2014, at 10:23, alex <[address removed]> wrote:

Feminists books are full of distortion and lies. Feminist version of patriarchy is a conspiracy theory that has never existed. Apex male dominated societies are set up to privilege and benefit women at the expense of men. Women have a proven in-group preference, while men don't. Powerful men serve the interests of women over men. 

This is why you have gender hate domestic violence policing that targets men, even though women are the more violent sex in the home. 

This is why men pay 70% into the tax system, while most of the spending goes to women. This is why the legal system favours women in so many ways. This is why the media is female dominated. 

This is a female dominated society, this is a society that spits out low status men and discards them. I have been homeless. I still talk to homeless men myself. 80% of them are homeless because of a woman. (Women are seen as extra human, so they get pushed ahead on the housing list. I was told by the council that even single women are ahead of me in the housing list.) Women have the power to phone the police on a man and get him taken away. A man can now legally get kicked from his own home. Women get all the women's shelters and men get none. Men are like 95% of the homeless. 

Time to end the empathy apartheid against men. The first step is to destroy the feminist narrative that dehumanizes men and casts them as oppressors. Time for women to deal with and own up to their innate hatred of low status men. 


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:48 PM, alex <[address removed]> wrote:
Do you realise feminists in India and Israel blocked making female on male rape illegal? 

Do you realise feminists spread false stats regarding rape? 

Do you realise feminists have hijacked the discourse on domestic violence. (Covering up the fact that women are the more violent gender in the home.) Feminists have hijacked and taken over domestic violences shelters. 

Patriarchy theory is a conspiracy theory that slanders all men. Men have never systematically oppressed women, that is just a baseless assertion. 

Single motherhood is child abuse, and violence against the divorced man. (Most single mothers are single mothers by choice.) 

Male heterosexuality is demonized as something dirty thanks to feminism. 

Feminists want to ban porn because they hate male sexuality and want to control it, females see sex as a form of power and control. Porn gives men relief from the sexual urge. Feminists have labelled porn violence and waffled on nonsense about objectifation. (Male sexuality is so dirty, that just even fantasizing about women is harmful? Fuck off with your attempts at shame! )

Feminists want to challenge gender roles, except that they don't at all! They want to discard their gender roles, while forcing them onto men. Women whine about a fictional pay gap that has been debunked many times over, while females refuse to stop practising hypergamy. (If a man doesn't bring in more resources to the relationship than the woman he is gone.) 

Feminists have so dehumanized men, that they have labelled men who kill themselves as violent and wanting to harm women with their suicide attempt. 

I was a low status male, I have been under the direct fire of feminism. I grew up in a single mother culture. I have seen men degraded and abused. 

Any man who supports feminism is sick. 

Your hate movement is dead, the backlash is coming. Men will liberate themselves from female domination, the first step is to refuse to accept female invalidation and gaslighting of men. 





On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Adam <[address removed]> wrote:

Alex, you're an asshole and a troll. Please quote one line of text and demonstrate how it demeans men. I'm at a loss as to how you can take what you did from that post, you'd have to either be illiterate, an asshole or both.

On 22 Mar 2014 17:40, "alex" <[address removed]> wrote:
I was just going to spy on your feminazi's but the shit that gets posted is so disrespectful and dehumanizing to men. 

Women are the privileged leisure caste, to just make bare assertions of female oppression is hateful towards men. Men as a sex worship and adore women, women are the sex who hate men. Feminism is female projection on men.

Feminism is a hate movement who's time is done.  


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 5:35 PM, alex <[address removed]> wrote:

Why are men subservient the world over? 

Why are men considered so sub human that kicking him away from his family is normalized? 

MEN'S RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS! LOLOL


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 4:05 PM, alex <[address removed]> wrote:
Male strength comes from biology. This post is insane. 


This is basically paranoid crap on the same level as anti Semitism 


On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Sue M <[address removed]> wrote:
Many early post enlightenment women freethinkers tried to alert thinkers to the role of patriarchal religion Judaism, Christianity & Islam and their various sects and cults promoting male supremacy bolstered existing male physical strength, elitist conservative ruling political ideologies to create the brotherhoods of the modern world.

Hypacia Bradlaugh Bonner 1858 - 1943

British Woman Freethinker - Hypatia Bradlaugh Bonner was not just the daughter of the famous atheist, secularist MP Charles Bradlaugh, she was a notable activist, writer, atheist editor and educator in her own right, celebrated in the book edited by Annie L Gaylor -  "Women Without Superstition, "No Gods, No Masters" - They lived in modest style for 'placing unpopular causes ahead of creature comforts.'
Among many topics she wrote on women's rights, slavery and secularism.


On Women she wrote:-

It is difficult to exaggerate the adverse influence of the precepts and practices of religion upon the status and happiness of woman. Owing to the fact that upon women devolves the burden of motherhood, with all its accompanying disabilities, they always have been, and always must be, at a natural disadvantage in the struggle of life as compared with men....
With certain exceptions, women all the world over have been relegated to a position of inferiority in the community, greater or less according to the religion and the social organisation of the people; the more religious the people the lower the status of the women...

Women Without Superstition, "No Gods No Masters"
http://www.wws-gb.freeuk.com/

She gave talks in numerous provincial cities, was an ardent oppone/nt of the death penalty and proponent of penal reform. She was a political liberal and peace activist, and founded  the Rationalist Peace Society in 1910, and  campaigned for the repeal of the blasphemy laws with progressives of the day including Bertrand Russell.
Attending an International Freethought Congress after WWI she reported her delight that so many Prague citizens wore the congress badge and the pansy (the symbol of Freethought) 'The organiser Dr Bartosec was one of the first Prague citizens to be jailed and condemned by the Nazis.'
HOW CAN WOMEN TO FIGHT  AGAINST PREJUDICE  IF WE WON'T IDENTIFY OUR ENEMY?


Sue Mayer
London Feminist Freethinkers
http://www.feminism.freeuk.com





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