DEALING WITH RESPECT AND TOLLERATION OF RELIGION

  • December 14, 2012 · 7:30 PM
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We are constantly being told, even by some non-believers that "we must respect and tolerate" religions that - teach, preach, broadcast and use their privileged position, even in our schools - to promote the attitudes that underlie the barbaric dogmas and prejudices of past centuries - still to be seen today.

Men and women have struggled - been pilloried and even given their lives to replace cruel ignorance with REASON and humanitarian attitudes, laws and social policies. It is time for us to claim OUR free speech for a change, and to defend our views.

 

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  • Farideh

    Dear Sue ,I am new member and I have loads of questions .I would like to join meet up or discussions .
    I would like learn more and and more about Atheism .
    Please guide me , Thanks

    July 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sue are you going to organise another meet? (and would i be invited?)

    January 16, 2013

    • Sue M

      Brian, I am finding it almost impossible to have meetings because we are getting so much disruption from a group of atheists who come along to tell us that although they are atheists, religion is OK and are hostile and aggressive particularly towards me and my attempts to thwart their efforts. It is part of a process that has been going on for almost a year now because I refused to let a bunch of humanist with those attitudes take us over.

      March 18, 2013

    • Mark B.

      Religious sympathizers are a major problem for me and my friends.HOW can anybody be sympathetic to people who believe in a supreme being, all prophets were born in the desert, holding only 2% of the worlds population.

      June 23, 2013

  • Sue M

    There is discussion on many issues on our message boards (See tabs at top of the website)

    "I am finding it almost impossible to have meetings because we are getting so much disruption from a group of atheists who come along to tell us that although they are atheists, religion is OK and are hostile and aggressive, and others who are particularly aggressive towards me and my attempts to thwart their efforts. It is part of a process that has been going on for almost a year now because I refused to let a bunch of humanist with those attitudes take us over. Even though I fully support their grouo, for anyone want a social group in pub venues. And they call us inactive, because they supposedly know of ways of being 'active' over and above what most of us do already.

    March 18, 2013

  • cafenoire

    Tell a Christian that Jesus was gay and see how tolerant they are, I don't agree with calling people c*nts for example but that's not just religious it's for anyone, we should have the freedom to critically challenge religion not to playground insult, after all we have the strength of logic therefore don't need to.

    2 · January 16, 2013

    • Sue M

      however it is not quite that simple because it is people who support and promote religious teaching and their distorted attitudes so we have to challenge them on those issuet - on principle - and at that level.

      2 · March 18, 2013

    • Sue M

      People who support the claims and effects of religion cannot entirely avoid the responsibility for their religious beliefs, but they don't understand this and take every attack of religion as personal and offensive - its a tactic that intimidate critics and stifles discussion. That has to be exposed.

      March 18, 2013

  • Dwijen

    Why should we respect and tolerate religious stand point when we know that they are preaching something from the dark ages and if we the rational give them a free will then they will drag us back to those ages. I strongly believe that those who are against rational thoughts and logic are against the progress of humanity as a whole.

    1 · January 16, 2013

    • Dwijen

      Hi Brain, you can call a pineapple anything as it is yours to name so goes with any of your pet..

      January 19, 2013

    • Dwijen

      I can't comment on circumstances which lead to your job lose but I can say that at my work place I have shared my views...

      1 · January 19, 2013

  • Sylvester

    I'll be with you in (perhaps the wrong word) spirit, but alas I am unable to attend this meeting. Why should religion expect tolerance from others, when it is not something it expects from it's own. You wouldn't want to be an Amalekite, for example.

    That we enter in to rational debate with people who hold unfalsifiable faith claims is tolerance enough.

    "I believe it because I do"...

    I'd like to see us get a lot less tolerant.

    December 6, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    It is difficult to gauge what is correct or not.
    EG could i ask an Islamic stranger ¨do you think we should have sharia law in this country? ¨...............or could I have just started a Islamaphobic bomb.

    December 6, 2012

  • paul m.

    Is it that a person believes in something therefore i must or should respect whatever that person may believe in. NO.
    If that were so what value would my respect have as all would have it. Respect is not a wholesale item. To have value it must be given only to that which has EARNED respect. Nothing that has not earned respect should be given it and as far as i am concerned no cult has ever earned any from me.

    3 · December 3, 2012

  • Sue M

    Please use the Message Board to share your views and PLEASE do not RSVP unless you definitely intend to come.

    December 3, 2012

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