Basic comparisons: Model A and MBTI model

Dear friends,

I hope that our next meet-up will be more successful and we shall like the new location. All meet-ups are free. If you do not know your type, we shall help you to understand it better and practise typing of others. Please, take the number of my phone 07852908703.

Hope to see you all in April.

Helpful links to learn more about socionics. I suggest the MBTI test to check out your profile because Socionics and MBTI have got the common theoretical basis with roots in pyschological types of C.G. Jung :

http://www.personalitypathways.com/type_inventory.html
http://socionics4you.com/en/theory/archive
https://www.facebook.com/groups/339434052825361/
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/forum.php

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  • Olga Tangemann

    Yesterday we considered Gem's type and today I talked on skype to one Russian Socionist Ionkin Sergey. Very interesting and talented person. He said his type is Huxley (IEE - ENFP) and I have no reason not to believe him. But looking on his video prior to our conversation I would not think he is the one. I thought he could be a SLI (ISTJ) in "extraverted mode of a performer". I guess we need to think down the line of differences within one type and analyse deeper, ask the right questions and etc.
    Although you do not understand Russian you might get the impression of some type looking at the first minute or two at the seminar of Sergey. I wonder what your opinion will be and if you can spot that he is actually IEE type?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­

    April 30, 2013

    • Olga Tangemann

      Hi Gem, the lady's name is Svetlana we did not discuss her type further just stopped at the version of ISTJ at that moment. She got back to me recently on facebook saying that the profile does not fit her at all and she still see herself as ESFJ.
      She did the test once with the result ESFJ. The good thing that she is very interested in socionics, will attend the meetup on Sunday and we shall be able to have another look at her type. I guess we need to think careflully about the questions to check out her preferences. Meanwile I suggested her to do a questionnaire and asked her for favourite music.

      May 1, 2013

    • Olga Tangemann

      Sergey on the video had a seminar about socionics (typology preferences) and psychosexuality.
      He posted a questionnaire on different socionics forums and also discussed it in private with some participants. Sergey studied psychology and NLP. (Unfortunately he does not know English.) When he put his findings in writing it will be easier for me to tell you what is it all about.

      May 1, 2013

  • Pete

    Something which cropped up in conversation yesterday, a short talk by Susan Cain on that crucial I/E dichotomy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­

    April 29, 2013

    • Olga Tangemann

      Very interesting talk and important issues have been raised up. You can actually see that she is an introvert. It is like she needs an extra breath to talk.
      I never noticed however this issue of domination of extraverts in the Russian culture or former USSR. Some socionists suggest that types can be assigned to countries and towns etc, this is called an integral type. I am a bit sceptical about integral types but do not reject the idea. It seems to be like association or projection the qualities of type on some other "objects". I do it myself to a certain degree when I type music, pcitures. I see the odds to compare something like country and type but you can say that some cultures or countries are more extraverted than others and so on.

      April 30, 2013

    • Olga Tangemann

      I posted your link to "Socionics International", all interesting links will go there: https://www.facebook.c...­

      April 30, 2013

  • Andy

    hey Olga, thanks for doing the meetup yesterday it was informative and I really liked the discussion. You guys are all awesome too! Oh and I have your book by the way, you left it! I'll bring it with me next time (that's if I haven't finished reading through yet ;))

    April 29, 2013

    • Olga Tangemann

      I am glad you have the book and we can let it go round the group. I like this author - Filatova, met her in St.Petereburg a couple of times. In 1991 I bought her book and became very interested in socionics.
      Just bear in mind that she uses a simiplified version of interpretation -model of K. Jung which is good for a start. The majority of socionists use model A (Aushra Augustivinchute). We can talk about the socionics models in our next meetup in more detail. And her names of types are slightly different from the main stream.

      April 30, 2013

  • Gem

    Olga that test was really off, it gave me LII as the result, it gave the two other IEE's at the meet up LIE and ESE. I did have a good read through some of the type descriptions and i still feel as though something is missing for me.

    April 29, 2013

    • Gem

      The above message is concerning the info and test on the link you posted below.

      April 29, 2013

  • Olga Tangemann

    The names of types in Socionics.
    The letters mean Intuition or Sensing (I or S), Thinking~Logics or Feeling~Ethics (L or E). The last letter means either extravert or introvert (E or I). For example: ILE - Intuitive Logical Extravert.

    Superid-types – are the irrational (P), dynamic introverts such as Sergei Yesenin (IEI-INFP), Honoré de Balzac (ILI-INTP), Alexandre Dumas (SEI-ISFP) and Jean Gabin (SLI-ISTP).

    Ego-types– are the rational (J) dynamic extroverts such as Hamlet (EIE-ENFJ), Victor Hugo (ESE-ESFJ), Jack London (LIE-ENTJ) and Stierlitz (LSE-ESTJ).

    Superego-types – are the rational (J), static introverts such as Fyodor Dostoyevsky (EII-INFJ), Theodore Dreiser (ESI-ISFJ), Maximilien Robespierre (LII-INTJ), Maxim Gorky (LSI-ISTJ).

    Id-types – are the irrational (perceiving), static extraverts such as
    Aldous Huxley (IEE -ENFP), Don Quixote (ILE-ENTP), Napoleon I (SEE-ESFP), Georgy Zhukov (SLE -ESTP)

    April 29, 2013

  • Olga Tangemann

    Many thanks to all who attended yesterday's meetup. I greatly enjoyed seeing and talking to you all. Absolutely fantastic people were yesterday at the meetup. :)
    Ksenia will post pictures from the meetup a bit later and I will post a list of names of types in English. The role-names and short profiles with socionics symbols can be found on Any's website: http://esocionika.com/index.php...­

    April 29, 2013

  • Rebecca

    Hi olga, myself and my guest are running slightly late. Aiming to be with you at 4.30pm :-)

    April 28, 2013

  • Gem

    Hey Olga, definately going to make this one tomorrow, will prob come 4-6pm as ha ve to get back early. See you then, look forward to it.

    1 · April 27, 2013

  • Pete

    I missed the last one so it's time to give this another shot. See you all tomorrow..

    1 · April 27, 2013

  • Olga Tangemann

    Hi Alexander,
    I am going with my daughter for sure. Two more people from the other internet resources said that they will be coming.
    LSS is a relativley new group and there is always an element of uncertainty. It happened before that the people who said will be coming - did not come but some people came whom I did not expect and who were not in a group. :)

    April 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    So Who's still heading to this meetup? it's 4 according to the event page, but I had a bad experience with the world music meetup group involving a bearded harpist and a lonely Scotsman...

    April 26, 2013

  • Olga Tangemann

    Dear friends, if you do not know your type but wish to know it I would recommend to take the same test ( see the first link in the main text) at least three times so that we could have more objective results - to see the tendency of the results.
    Look forward to see you and hope that this time all who will be coming to the meeting will find the group. I will also think about a sign of the group this time. It will be a sign of SOCIONICS.

    April 23, 2013

  • Olga Tangemann

    Just added a few links about socionics' resources on-line in the main text of the next meetup. ))

    March 24, 2013

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