RE: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java

From: user 4.
Sent on: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:32 PM
Alexander,

I think you pretty much had it right.

First Spring (core)
then JPA (with hibernate underneath)
check your SQL is reasonable
make sure you know Maven

and now assuming your core Java is decent you will get interviews.

spare time? maybe look at Spring MVC, write some RESTful stuff, set up some JEE web services or something..

It depends what jobs you're going for. If it's a cool startup or a social-media company or some cutting-edge consultancy then focus on what Kevin was saying. For more 'staid' jobs in banks or blue chips then if the system is written in Java/Spring/Hibernate then that should be fine. In fact, having a candidate who gets glazed eyes and cold shivers talking about the joy of a scala and MongoDB stack and how they are involved in ten open source projects may, in all seriousness, be a disadvantage. If I'm a PM of a system written in the  "legacy stack" of Java/Spring/Hibernate (did you spot the humour?), and there are a LOT of systems out there written and being-written in this,  and I know I have lots of boring old bug fixing and sticking new features in and very little "cool coding" then I'd anticipate that such a candidate will be bored out of their mind. Also, in some situtations those kind of 'new is best' chaps end up being a liability. Professionalism outweighs passion.

Cheers,
John


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Subject: Re: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java
Date: Thu, 28 Jun[masked]:02:27 -0400

Alexander,

In my opinion...

s/Spring/Cake Pattern/
s/Hibernate/Akka/
s/Maven/Gradle/
s/Ant//
s/Spring MVC./Play Framework/
s/Struts
//

Study Play! Framework with Scala, not Java, once you already know Java, correct?
Once you are studying Scala, you will learn lots of good practices and also the Cake Pattern along the way.
Gradle will consume only one day for good results. I'm serious.

This is already a good start which will open the doors for good opportunities (jobs).

This leaves you only with Akka for studying later.
Akka is much more involving and will demand a lot of effort and hands on it and its applications in the industry.

I hope it helps,
Richard Gomes
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On 27/06/12 22:47, Stephen Masters wrote:
Concentrating on the 'core Java EE' list, rather than the 'well-rounded developer' list my thoughts would be...

There's limited space in my head, so I dropped Struts and Ant a long time ago. Any jobs that require these as core skills are probably boring roles maintaining old apps that won't give you any on-the-job learning in newer technologies. Avoid them unless you're desperate.

With regards Hibernate, my preference is to concentrate on JPA with Hibernate as the ORM plugin, as it's easier to switch between ORM libraries. But there are plenty of places that deal directly with Hibernate.

In my experience, integration is vital, so you should add JMS to the list. It's good to learn frameworks such as Apache Camel and Spring Integration to make it easier to work with.

Every company wants to claim it's developing a service oriented architecture. My preferred means of delivering web services is with Spring-WS. I would recommend knocking up some REST & SOAP example apps with that.

If you're looking to build web apps, then skipping out of Java tech, you need to look into how to do JavaScript well. A few years ago, you could get away with some pretty awful hack-jobs in JavaScript. These days it is much more common practise to be working with a framework such as jQuery or Dojo, using TDD with a tool such as Jasmine, and structuring/modularising your apps with the help of Backbone.js and Require.js.

Good look with the job hunt!

Steve


On 27 June 2012 11:02, alexander sharma <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi

I have another question regarding Java.

What Java JEE technologies are most common to get a job in london:

In my view they are:

Spring
Hibernate
Maven
Ant
Spring MVC
Struts


Thanks




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