Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work

From: Bruce D.
Sent on: Sunday, July 1, 2012 11:05 PM
Richard,

For me, the problem with waterfall is that we end up waiting far too
long to see if our original vision or strategy was worth pursuing.

Agile is all about figuring out the smallest, quickest thing you can
do to test a vision. And if the vision is right, then that thing
should start to return some value to the business. If the vision was
wrong, then it tells us that we need to change the vision.

cheers,
Bruce

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Richard Gomes <[address removed]> wrote:
> I believe that the root of problem is the mistaken idea that everything
> waterfall is bad.
> The conscious or unconscious negation of everything waterfall leads to
> lack of long term planning, imho.
> Or maybe the focus is so intense in the short term deliverables that
> long term aspects are overlooked.
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> Thanks
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> On 30/06/12 10:10, Abraham Marín Pérez wrote:
>> Although may interesting things have already been said I'd like to tip in the conversation. The root cause in the original problem seems to me a rather common one: managers hear the hype around agile, read a couple of articles on the Internet, think its's just like following one more process (like studying for PRINCE 2), and then go to the meeting mechanically asking "what did you do yesterday? What are you doing today? Any blockers?". The follow a set of instructions and expect results to magically appear, while what they need to do is understand the core principles of the practice. It's not what you do, it's what drives you to do it.
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>> I don't have an Internet connection at the moment of typing this email, but if you google "patterns and anti-patterns for daily stand ups" you'll find a few resources that indicate typical caveats and how to fix them. Send it to your manager and "ask for opinions" to encourage thought, it may help.
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