Re: [ljc] Java experrience

From: Jeremy D.
Sent on: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:34 AM
Hi Nav,

It's the classic chicken and egg situation. Need experience to get the jobs but then how do you get that experience in the first place? 

If you have nothing on your cv to indicate an aptitude onwards programming it's difficult to get you foot in the door. But it's not impossible so long as you apply yourself. 

First things first you have to start writing code; lots and lots of code. It's the only way to learn a language and it can take time (not 21 days as some books like to state...). Secondly as you have no experience the get some certifications. This then at least proves you can do the job. Learn about source control. Continuous deployment. Test driven development and behavioural driven  development. Understand where the Java language is heading - dynamic language support, functional language additions such an lambda functions which is due in JDK 8. Play around with mocking frameworks and understand why we need them (Mockito is a good one). Concurrency is going to become more and more important in the future so a firm understanding of how to develop multiple-core apps in Java will stand you apart from other developers. 

Then decide what you want to do. The Java stack is huge and you cant tackle it all. Do you like web development. Server side development.  Company type? Working in media, telecoms or banking are obvious choices. Find out what skills are required for each by looking at job boards like job serve. I work as a contractor in investment banks and these days we hire people with no prior experience in finance for certain roles so it is not as hard to get in as it used to. But you need to know your stuff as the interviews can tend toward the more academic parts of the language. Again, write code. Write lots and lots of code. 

It will be junior roles you will have to take so don't expect to get rich quick, but after 2 years you can look to step to more challenging roles. 

I hope this helps. Was just a brain dump. 

Good luck,

Jez

On 9 Oct 2012, at 05:21, Naveed <[address removed]> wrote:

Hi everyone

I was wondering, what is the best way to get  industry experience in java, as I'm in a non tech back ground.
Any advice will appreciated

Nav

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On 8 Oct 2012, at 15:02, "James Gough" <[address removed]> wrote:

The Well Grounded Java Developer is an awesome book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Well-Grounded-Java-Developer-programming/dp/1617290068/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1349703356&sr=8-1

It address points 1, 2, 4 and 5 very well. If you haven't done any Java before then I'd recommended reading some online tutorials and then trying this book to consolidate what you know.

Thanks,
Jim

On 8 October[masked]:34, Trisha <[address removed]> wrote:
I haven't read the Java one, but I've found the Head First books dead handy for getting your brain in the right place for learning things:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Head-First-Java-Kathy-Sierra/dp/0596009208


On 8 October[masked]:29, Ambikesh Jayal <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi All,

I am looking for recommendations for a java programming book. I know of plenty of books in programming and java but just thought to get opinions of others. It would be big advantage if the book is open source and free. 

Ideally I am looking for a book that is:
1. Interesting and fun to read.
2. Simple to understand, based on active learning approach, possibly with real life examples
3. Directed mainly towards people who are learning programming for the first time
4. Book should be as much about general programming concepts as it is about Java in particular.
5. There should be no prerequisites beyond a general familiarity with the ideas of computers and programs.

Thanks and Regards,
Ambi.




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