Re: Re: [ljc] To old to learn new tricks!!!

From: Olusola F.
Sent on: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:58 PM
One thing I  would advice you is that if you have specific skills is that you need to work out what sort of role/industry you are aiming for as there are lots of different Masters out there where you will "learn" programming and apply it to different situations.

Someone I use to share with was accepted to do this course  this year in his 30s -  http://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-creating-social-media/ 

I had a look at the course material and he explained to me when I was talking to him last August, that  there was a 4 week compulsory summer school for those who hadn't programmed before to get up to speed with programming before the course started. He was in touch with some of the (now) previous students and it seemed that most of them were trying to get the MSc rather than the MA. The MSc has more software/application development.

There is a high demand for the course as they only take on about 30 students a year,  most of the students had job offers and confirmed jobs by August before they had even finished their dissertations.  Most of these were from well-known organisations and companies. This was obviously due to them using their previous experience with what they would learn from the course.

Finally if you do decide to do  any form of Computer Science/Software Development masters be prepared to do a lot of work.  You will be doing far more than 8 hours  a week even if you had done some programming before.  :)

Olusola






On 12 February[masked]:26, Matt Pearce <[address removed]> wrote:
Hi,

I'm also in my forties. I made switch into Technology in my late twenties. Even now, I am pursuing potential careers (just as hobbies for now) in electronics, neurological research and fine art!! I also know several other people who successfully made these kind of career switches in their forties. It's very much achievable.

I personally wouldn't go for formal degree at my time of life, because of the heavy time commitment. You need to commit at least 8 hours a week to a degree.

However, if you're prepared to put in that commitment, then a few tips. Apologies, if I'm duplicating things already said by others:

- if you have a BA, go for MSc not BSc, and don't go for the foundation (entry-level) type of MSc, go for the advanced one
- ask potential universities, when they last updated the course. This can be on a 5 year cycle. If you are on wrong end of that cycle, you may be disappointed that certain emerging trends or technologies are not taught or skimmed over.
- you can try courses out over the summer with a 'short course'
- consider evening courses. They often have a higher percentage of 'mature' students so you will find kindred spirits
- if you are not a UK citizen, look very carefully at the 'foreign student' fee structure. They can be five times the UK one.
- look at the university's commitment to academic-commercial bridges. Birkbeck, QMUL, UCL, City, OU, Cambridge, Oxford, among many others, have such opportunities to help you get involved in research that has a potential commercial use. Look at the type of research they specialise in, and see if it is something you are interested in. If so, and you're prepared to put in even more time, you can get involved early, and it will add a very specialist edge to your CV
- check with your current career if they will actually pay your way
- finally, don't start from the bottom of the industry. Take the attitude that you expect at least a 5k salary raise after shifting careers. Use your transferable skills, and identify the emerging technologies (which have a more level playing field) to justify that.

Best regards
Matt

 
From: Richard Conroy [mailto:[address removed]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12,[masked]:14 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: [address removed] <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: Re: [ljc] To old to learn new tricks!!!
 
Hi,
   I know many people who made or are making career switches into technology and development.

There is no age ceiling on it.

What makes people succeed at it, is their determination to stick at it and learn the skills. This comes to you best from actively programming and finishing software.

Theory is useful at certain stages, but it is no substitute. 

Work through actual coding exercises, and try different languages until you arrive at one that suits your ability to make progress. Always type up the examples, and run them yourself, it is much more important than just reading the code.

Regardless of what long term solution you think of (in terms of certs, full time education), actively programming is key.




--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Richard Conroy ([address removed]) from LJC - London Java Community.
To learn more about Richard Conroy, visit his/her member profile
Set my mailing list to email me As they are sent | In one daily email | Don't send me mailing list messages

Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163 | [address removed]
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please reply to the sender and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email, and/or any action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.



--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Matt Pearce ([address removed]) from LJC - London Java Community.
To learn more about Matt Pearce, visit his/her member profile
Set my mailing list to email me As they are sent | In one daily email | Don't send me mailing list messages

Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163 | [address removed]



Our Sponsors

  • Our Blog

    Read the latest news from the LJC

  • RecWorks Ltd

    Fixing Tech Recruitment using the Power of Community

  • jClarity

    Java/JVM Performance Analysis Tools & mentoring for Java related matters

  • LJC Aggrity

    Our LJC Aggrity site contains blog posts from our members

  • LJC Book Club

    Our Book club with book reviews from our members

  • Devoxx UK

    Java Community Conference, in collaboration with the LJC 12/13 Jun 14

  • SkillsMatter

    "Host, help organise, promote, film many of our meetings."

  • Packt Publishing

    A publishing company specializing on specific technologies and solutions

  • Java.Net

    We are an official Java User Group recognised by Oracle's JUG program

  • JRebel

    Free 3 month J-Rebel license.

  • O'Reilly

    40% discount on printed books and 50% on e-books.

People in this
Meetup are also in:

Sign up

Meetup members, Log in

By clicking "Sign up" or "Sign up using Facebook", you confirm that you accept our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy