I may be being influences by my personal opinion of what "mainstream" means or my own personal experience.

On one side, I'm not sure few people believe certificates don't provide value. Big (maybe non-technical) corporations still trust the title more than the actual skills. I can see big fat projects, the 4-year, multimillion kind, where they say "I need x programmers with this certificate and z with this other"; you know, many people still like thinking of programmers like parts of a machine they can buy and replace as per spec. And I don't think this trend is gone because it benefits three kinds of people: the old-school project managers who like to sell big and let others do the work, the industry preparing people to obtain the certificates, and the people who like selling themselves as par obtained certificates and not as per demonstrates skills.

On the other hand, again maybe because of my own personal experience, I can see big, multimillion java projects, but I personally haven't seen any company saying "we are going to spend x millions on building this massive JavaScript program". However these things may be out there and I'm just missing out :)

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Abraham 

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>> I think scala can be considered to have gone mainstream once some organisation starts selling certificates about its knowledge like Java certification, Scrum Master certification, Microsoft .NET's certified professional, etc.
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> Ruby and JavaScript are mainstream. Does anybody sell certifications for those?
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> I think the whole certification thing will be seen as a historical anomaly as soon
> as in 5 years time. Modern projects include way more than 1-2 languages,
> people build their systems as services (that can be in any language and still
> interoperate), and honestly, very few people still believe that certifications
> somehow reflect actual skills.
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