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Re: [ljc] London IT area - As well as the guidelines John offers, many hedge funds are based in Mayfair and a lot of the banks have work out in Canary Wharf. I'd say tech in London is based around the business locations in London. So, if you want tech for fashion (for example Trisha Jul 12, 2012 1:24 PM
Re: [ljc] software dev in test questions - I think the answers to these questions aren't going to be enough to get through an interview. You're probably going to have to show deep (to some degree) understanding of the test phases rather than just knowing their names. T Craig S. Jul 12, 2012 11:50 AM
software dev in test questions - Anyone know answers to these "simple" questions: What are the test phases what is a defect how should defects look like alexander s. Jul 12, 2012 10:05 AM
Re: [ljc] London IT area - The Silicon Roundabout? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Street_Roundabout#Silicon_Roundabout On 12 July[masked]:44, Greg Bakos wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a special area in London where the IT companies are concentrated? user 1. Jul 12, 2012 8:48 AM
Re: [ljc] London IT area - I does not seem that there is a single area in London that IT companies congregate.  Typically financial companies are based in the City of London.  Media companies are based either in Shorditch or in the West End.  There are lots of startups in t John S. Jul 12, 2012 8:25 AM
London IT area - Hi All, Is there a special area in London where the IT companies are concentrated? Thanks, Greg Gergő B. Jul 12, 2012 7:36 AM
Re: Your message to LJC - London Java Community. - i heard ruby uses RSpec Cucumber minitest but thats about all i know have no idea what they do. alexander s. Jul 12, 2012 12:00 AM
Software Development Engineer in Test - Hi everyone I wanted to ask for some advice. I have an interview as a software development engineer in test with a big company that deals with a highly transaction website. My questions are: What type of questions can I expect alexander s. Jul 11, 2012 11:55 PM
Re: [ljc] Re: Project Managers moving people around - On 10/07/[masked]:27, robert annett wrote: Jack S. Jul 10, 2012 11:06 PM
Re: [ljc] Re: Project Managers moving people around - You know, sometimes it helps to tell the PM directly (email, chat by the coffee machine etc) what areas you'd like to work in, ask what upcoming projects/things are in those areas, and ask politely to be considered for them. What Robert has s andrew Jul 10, 2012 1:59 PM
Re: Project Managers moving people around - >Why is it that project managers say: "we need more resources for this project", robert a. Jul 10, 2012 10:55 AM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - I hope this image contributes to clarify this question user 8. Jul 9, 2012 8:39 PM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Uberto Barbini < [address removed] > wrote: alexander s. Jul 9, 2012 2:06 PM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - > Because those managers don't understand software development, they see > it as an advanced typing skill rather than a fully fledged creative > analyse/design/test etc profession that it really is. I should update my cv then: quite skilled typist Uberto B. Jul 9, 2012 1:17 PM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - If only all work places could be like yours Trisha, the world would be a much better place. :-) That said working as a contractor doing Agile Mentor/Coach and/or development in Agile projects the original questions are very real at many many places. Gunnar G. Jul 9, 2012 12:22 PM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - I don't think there's a "new" agile methodology to address this. If you look at Scrum (for example), a) there are no project managers and b) it's supposed to be the team that signs up for work and has ownership of delivering the project. Here at LM Trisha Jul 9, 2012 11:12 AM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - Hi Alex, > Hi > > This is more of a general observation I have been making, working as a > software developer. > > Why is it that project managers say: "we need more resources for this > project", referring to developers (are we easily replacable Martijn V. Jul 9, 2012 11:09 AM
Re: [ljc] Project Managers moving people around - If you're in a place where developers are referred to as "resources", then you really shouldn't be talking about "project managers" Instead, the correct phrase to use is "the bureaucracy". Kevin W. Jul 9, 2012 11:04 AM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - Hi Alexander, I think you've received some very good answers already, bu Luigi B. Jul 9, 2012 10:59 AM
Project Managers moving people around - Hi This is more of a general observation I have been making, working as a software developer. Why is it that project managers say: "we need more resources for this project", referring to developers (are we easily replacable like ha alexander s. Jul 9, 2012 9:11 AM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/gc-tuning-6-140523.html On 6 July[masked]:04, alexander sharma wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I just had a technical talk on Garbage Collection in my company and I had > several q Martin D. Jul 7, 2012 9:31 PM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - Hello Alexander, On Jul 6, 2012, at 9:04 PM, alexander sharma wrote: Alexey K. Jul 7, 2012 10:29 AM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - Hello Alexander, Better than tunning GC... it's much b user 8. Jul 6, 2012 7:44 PM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - On 06/07/[masked]:04, alexander sharma wrote: Jack S. Jul 6, 2012 7:00 PM
Re: [ljc] Garbage Collection - Hi Alex, > Hi Everyone > > I just had a technical talk on Garbage Collection in my company and I had > several questions which they were not able to answer so I thought I would > post my questions to the LJC. GC questions are fun! ( Martijn V. Jul 6, 2012 6:28 PM
Garbage Collection - Hi Everyone I just had a technical talk on Garbage Collection in my company and I had several questions which they were not able to answer so I thought I would post my questions to the LJC. 1. How does one tune garbage collection 2. Is alexander s. Jul 6, 2012 3:49 PM
Java Date TIme API Hack Event - Have you ever been caught out by a bug in the current Java Date implementation? Do you want to get a sneak preview into the new Date Time library for Java 8? Do you want to have an opportunity to feedback on the way the API works? If you answered yes James G. Jul 5, 2012 9:54 PM
'JBoss EAP 6 Domain Mode Features' Webinar, 11th July - Dominika T. Jul 5, 2012 11:07 AM
Book publishing tips from LJC members - Hi, Apologies for plug. There was a discussion recently on this list about publishing technical books. I spoke with LJC members Martijn and Ben about their book: Well-grounded Java Developer, and asked for their tips on getting technical books publi Matt P. Jul 4, 2012 2:10 PM
Re: [ljc] Web Selenium - +1 SauceLabs has a nice little CSS selector reference Gareth W. Jul 4, 2012 11:22 AM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Hi all Thanks everyone for the contributions to this discussion, especially the specific comments on how and when to (re-)focus on strategic goals setting and adjustment. One take-away for me fr Matt P. Jul 3, 2012 9:14 PM
Extract href tags with HTMLUnit and Eclipse Java - Hi Does anyone know how to extract href tags with HTMLUnit. Maybe using xpath expressions or something similar. Much Appreciated. Thanks alexander s. Jul 3, 2012 5:08 PM
HTMLUNit or Selenium Web Driver - Hi Everyone How would I extract deals from groupon deals website once I log in using HTMLUnit and using Selenium Web Driver http://seleniumhq.org/docs/03_­webdriver.html I have a alexander s. Jul 3, 2012 1:29 PM
Re: [ljc] Web Selenium - I would be careful using HTMLUnit or HtmlUnitDriver when Javascript is involved. HTMLUnit uses the Rhino JavaScript engine and no major Web Browser uses it. If your going to learn Selenium I would focus on the learning the WebDriver A Alan P. Jul 3, 2012 12:36 PM
Re: [ljc] Talks with animals - Ah but that's why they're a threat! No-one talks about them and so they sneak their way into more an more talks every year, it's like coat hangers I tell you.... On 3 July[masked]:47, Kevin Wright wrote: > The *greatest* Martijn V. Jul 3, 2012 11:49 AM
Re: [ljc] Talks with animals - The *greatest* threat? You could have chosen the rampant sexism, lack of women attendees, booth babes, quality of food, inaccessible pricing, geographic distribution, proportion of talks that are just thinly veiled adverts, etc, etc Kevin W. Jul 3, 2012 10:37 AM
Re: [ljc] Talks with animals - Ben Evans and Otters. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Martijn Verburg < [address removed] > wrote: Michael B. Jul 3, 2012 10:01 AM
Re: [ljc] Web Selenium - I don't use it a lot, but I can provide a few pointers. There's an IDE developed as a Firefox extension: http://seleniumhq.org/projects­/ide/ G Stephen M. Jul 3, 2012 9:50 AM
Talks with animals - Hi all, So I'm looking to do an Ignite talk on "the greatest threat to tech conferences today" at Oscon. Basically it's going to be a very tongue in cheek presentation where I present 20 slides, each slide containing: 1. The Speaker + a link to Martijn V. Jul 3, 2012 8:50 AM
Re: [ljc] Web Selenium - Scraping is bad for you. HTMLUnit will probably do the trick, you don't need Selenium. Otherwise just use HTTP client and HTML parser. Cheers Paweł On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:25 AM, alexander sharma wrote: Paweł K. Jul 3, 2012 7:54 AM
Web Selenium Questions - Hi Does anyone know how I would extract contents from html websites using web selenium. For example when logging into Groupon and when one clicks the All Deals tab I would like to extract all the deals. Would this be done through xquery o alexander s. Jul 3, 2012 1:28 AM
Web Selenium - Hi Anybody here who knows how to use Web Selenium, tutorials etc is it a plugin in eclipse. Is web selenium for testing live website for example how would I extract all deals from Groupon website using Web Selenium. Any help appreciated alexander s. Jul 3, 2012 1:06 AM
Java Test Automation Code - Hi I wanted to ask what "test automation code" is in Java. Would examples include TestNG, EasyMock, Junit,, Mockito. I have not heard this phrase: "test automation code" before thats why im asking. Thank you alexander s. Jul 3, 2012 12:45 AM
Re: [ljc] LJC Partner Events - Aaron, I really appreciate the work you, Anji and the rest of people at recworks do to promote things going on in the wider community. Thanks for doing it and please don't stop! :-D cheers, Bruce On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Aaron Braund Bruce D. Jul 2, 2012 4:09 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I'm a long way off being any kind of agile expert, but I'm not sure why agile practices would in any way prevent a team from having a long term / strategic perspective. Admittedly, d uring an individual sprint, you're not goin Stephen M. Jul 2, 2012 2:54 PM
Re: [ljc] LJC Partner Events - user 3. Jul 2, 2012 2:47 PM
Re: [ljc] LJC Partner Events - The Functional Web Architecture talk is *tomorrow* Tuesday 3 July. The sign up is here: http://skillsmatter.com/event-­details/clojure/functional-web­-architecture/js-4503 James Reeves is one of the primary maintainers of clojure's web stack. There Bruce D. Jul 2, 2012 2:31 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Hey guys, Sorry to gatecrash this thread with a plug, but for those in a leadership position, intereste Barry C. Jul 2, 2012 1:47 PM
CloudJot - macusers - Hi Everyone I recently started my own company creating applications for the MacBook. For those people who are mac enthusiasts and interested in this application please support us we can provide you with trial keys. alexander s. Jul 2, 2012 10:14 AM
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Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Richard, For me, the problem with waterfall is that we end up waiting far too long to see if our original vision or strategy was worth pursuing. Agile is all about figuring out the smallest, quickest thing you can do to test a vision. And if the v Bruce D. Jul 1, 2012 11:05 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Very well said Trisha, cant agree more with you. Sergi Sergio V. Jul 1, 2012 10:36 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Couldn't agree more. When you boil it down, there are 2 ways to screw up software: coding the wrong thing, and coding the right thing the wrong way. If you want a successful career, you have to know how to avoid both Adam M. Jul 1, 2012 7:47 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I hope that most developers do look beyond code - in my experience, lots of developers look at process if only because a good process gives them more time to write the sort of code they want to write. I hope. I think we as an industry are perpetuat Trisha Jul 1, 2012 6:55 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I agree with Trisha but I think he was just pointing out that most developers don't look beyond code enough, which is often true. The best developers understand that a computer system is part of a wider system, i.e. one that includes the users and the Jon H. Jul 1, 2012 6:46 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I'm sorry, but this sort of comment makes me very angry. a) I don't think it's true and b) whether or not it IS true doesn't mean that it should be. In order to do our real, day-to-day jobs for which we get paid, we MUST understand more than just Trisha Jul 1, 2012 5:48 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - I believe that the root of problem is the mistaken idea that everything waterfall is bad. The conscious or unconscious negation of everything waterfall leads to lack of long term planning, imho. Or maybe the focus is so intense in the short term del user 8. Jul 1, 2012 12:37 AM
Re: [ljc] Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - For people really interested in this space I'm working with the main FOSS vendors (Camel, Mule, Spring, Ikasan etc) to produce a new standard (JSR) for EIP. Ping me if you want to get involved :-) Cheers, Martijn V. Jun 30, 2012 1:09 PM
Re: [ljc] Plea for all members - help guide the next generation... - First response in... Awesome, Thanks Mike B! Any one else up for giving it a go? Email as before or text me on 07876355215. B Barry C. Jun 30, 2012 12:05 PM
Re: Re: [ljc] Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - Hi Alex,  You can find a brief overview here  http://www.javacodegeeks.com/2­012/03/integration-framework-c­omparison-spr Konstantinos P. Jun 30, 2012 10:18 AM
Re: [ljc] BSc or MSc - Hi Barry, all, 2p; Q, Advantages of MSc over BSc? A, Chances are you will be higher up the CV pile unless the CV sifter has a distaste for academic individuals. Q, Is software engineering good? A, Depends on your vocation, for technical IT ro David H. Jun 30, 2012 10:10 AM
Plea for all members - help guide the next generation... - Hey guys, Great to see some activity on the LJC mailing list, I can't remember a time it was so active. Barry C. Jun 30, 2012 10:04 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Although may interesting things have already been said I'd like to tip in the conversation. The root cause in the original problem seems to me a rather common one: managers hear the hype around agile, read a couple of articles on the Internet, think its's Abraham Marín P. Jun 29, 2012 8:23 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - I concur that productivity is still mainly time measured and most project planning tools should be described as old wine fit for old wineskins. They need tweaking  to fit into new wineskins and new thinking. Nevertheless, with scrum since productivity is Dominic Jun 29, 2012 7:32 PM
RE: [ljc] Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - Hello Alexander Not sure if I can bring up my book h Madhusudhan k. Jun 29, 2012 7:19 PM
Re: [ljc] Why Java? - the question is a good one. Why Java? I've been doing Java for more than 12 years, and even after all this time, it remains almost unchanged. That's why two years ago I started to move to Scala. Not looking back !! Fernando R. Jun 29, 2012 6:44 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - On Fri,[masked] at 01:25 -0400, John Summers wrote: […] > Sadly the second-last experience I had of Agile was quite unpleasant. > It was warped into a mechanism to micro-manage and interfere with > developers. The daily stand-up turned into an Russel W. Jun 29, 2012 6:11 PM
Re: [ljc] BSc or MSc - Hi Barry Zoe S. Jun 29, 2012 6:11 PM
Re: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java - On Thu,[masked] at 08:02 -0400, Richard Gomes wrote: […] > s/Maven/Gradle/ […] Oh yes. Maven may have contributed the Maven Repository, and that is still a brilliant thing, but Gradle the build framework definitely shows that Maven the buil Russel W. Jun 29, 2012 6:00 PM
Re: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java - On Fri,[masked] at 01:28 -0400, Stephen Souness wrote: > For those not from a Perl(ish) background, the syntax in Richard's > email: Nothing to do with Perl, it's Ed. > s/something/something else/ > > > Means substitute the something on th Russel W. Jun 29, 2012 5:53 PM
Re: [ljc] Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - Recommendation seconded. N. On 29 June[masked]:44, Martijn Verburg < [address removed] > wrote: @sleepyfox Jun 29, 2012 5:52 PM
Re: [ljc] Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - Hi Alex, Have you read Enterprise Integration Patterns by Hohpe and Woolfe? It's a very good place to start. Cheers, Martijn On 29 June[masked]:26, alexander sharma wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I want to do a talk Martijn V. Jun 29, 2012 5:44 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I'll agree to disagree on this point, right from the start of my development experience I was very interested in the process of producing software :-). Also, I'll add that it's practicing the agile (little 'a' agile) techniques on your real world proj Martijn V. Jun 29, 2012 5:40 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Hi, Sadly, I think I agree on the latter. It is probable that most people in the list disagrees, but that could be precisely because the sort of people who join these groups actually Abraham Marín P. Jun 29, 2012 4:57 PM
Service Mix, Apache Camel, ESB Mule - Hi Everyone I want to do a talk for my company about different integration tools ESB Mule etc. Does anyone have good experience about them or resources. Thanks a lot for your help alexander s. Jun 29, 2012 1:54 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - it seems to me that one needs to study agile methodologies in order to do it correctly. i think most developers are more interesting in learning about technology than processes.  On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Matt Pear alexander s. Jun 29, 2012 12:49 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Dominic < [address removed] > wrote: Scot M. Jun 29, 2012 12:03 PM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Like everything in life it really varies from team to team / organisation to organisation. Some places are good at strategi Alex B. Jun 29, 2012 11:33 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - @John Summers The success or failure of an Agile methodology in delivering projects is largely due to how it's been used in context. The organisational culture must lends itself to the agile framework in practise and not in words. There are various Dominic Jun 29, 2012 11:26 AM
RE: [ljc] agile and strategic - Matt P. Jun 29, 2012 11:18 AM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - Simply put these are high-level stories and are managed in a high-level backlog in the same way as sprint planning and release planning, just on a different (much more strategic) level: As a product director of Pinnacle I wa @sleepyfox Jun 29, 2012 11:11 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - It sounds to me like they didn't value software.  It was seen as a necessity and as an unfortunate cost centre that was unavoidable in persuing their core source of profit.  My first guess would have to be inves Kevin W. Jun 29, 2012 11:01 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - As someone who has been helping teams become more effective even before the term 'Agile' was coined in 2001, I would just like to weigh in and put on record that the OP's experience, while lamentable, is in no way shape or form 'Agile' @sleepyfox Jun 29, 2012 10:56 AM
Re: [ljc] agile and strategic - I believe the normal approach is to "have a product owner".  The strategic goals *have* to be known somewhere, how are priorities being set otherwise? On 29 June[masked]:34, Matt Pearce < Kevin W. Jun 29, 2012 10:52 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Sturgeon's law applies to software development. On Fri,[masked] at 05:34 -0400, Richard Gomes wrote: > Most don't > On 29/06/12 10:15, Martijn Verburg wrote: > > Not if you're doing it right ;-) > > > > On 29 June[masked]:54, Richard Gomes Burkhard K. Jun 29, 2012 10:42 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Most don't Richard Gomes mobile : [masked] twitter: frgomes ------------------------------­------------------------------­------- Skype: dial skype2ippi then dial[masked] when prompted. GTalk: dial [address removed] then dial user 8. Jun 29, 2012 10:30 AM
agile and strategic - Hi Would like to pick up on Richard's comment: 'Agile lacks long-term planning', on a new thread. I'm interested in which ways can Agile practitioners keep long-term or strategic goals in focus, while retaining the agility of being able to change d Matt P. Jun 29, 2012 10:29 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - I disagree. Eclipse is delivered with agile techniques and they've hit the yearly deadline for the last 11 years. Alex B. Jun 29, 2012 10:17 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Not if you're doing it right ;-) On 29 June[masked]:54, Richard Gomes wrote: > Agile lacks long term planning. > > Richard Gomes > mobile : [masked] > twitter: frgomes > ------------------------------­------------- Martijn V. Jun 29, 2012 10:14 AM
Re: University vs Real Life Industry Work - In the industry, you have to consider where the money is coming form, and your role as a developer in enabling that. You are often building bespoke systems for clients, developing products for the market, or working at an operational le Richard C. Jun 29, 2012 9:55 AM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Agile lacks long term planning. Richard Gomes mob user 8. Jun 29, 2012 9:52 AM
Re: [ljc] This years JAX London!!! - As Sam writes, the relationship between JAX London and the LJC has always been an important one. I would recommend you check out Barry C. Jun 29, 2012 5:04 AM
This years JAX London!!! - Hey all, Samantha h. Jun 28, 2012 3:37 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Hi Alex, I disagree the comparison between 'University vs. Industry' comparison - especially in the context where you take a flawed example for one which influences an obvious bias towards the other. Dinuk W. Jun 28, 2012 2:43 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - It's one of the reasons why Ben and I started our own company. I like to think we don't run our company in the way you described. Mind you we're a pretty deep tech R&D firm, so it has a university research feel to it a lot of the time. As a 'manage Martijn V. Jun 28, 2012 1:39 PM
RE: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java - For those not from a Perl(ish) background, the syntax in Ri Stephen S. Jun 28, 2012 1:37 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Industry work is generally about making money from creating software, so there will always be a sense from management that they're trying to achieve this goal.  The method of getting there however, can be different from company to company and sometime Bronwyn Jun 28, 2012 1:34 PM
RE: [ljc] What technologies should I study in Java - Alexander, I think you pretty much had i user 4. Jun 28, 2012 1:32 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:02 PM, alexander sharma < [address removed] > wrote: Scot M. Jun 28, 2012 1:26 PM
Re: [ljc] University vs Real Life Industry Work - Ummm.... you're in the wrong company.  What would "starting your own company" look like?  Getting to mess around with "cool" tech all day?  Following your passions and interests is great, but... here's another perspective. Michael K. Jun 28, 2012 1:25 PM

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