Re: [atheists-487] Obama appointment

From: Frances P.
Sent on: Thursday, July 9, 2009 1:55 PM
Urban legends can get started when someone says, what if X is true? and the next person only hears "X is true" and takes it from there.

If PZ Myers thinks that his religious views are not going to affect his job performance, I think we should move on to a real problem.



--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Darren Gates <[address removed]> wrote:

> From: Darren Gates <[address removed]>
>
> It's an analogy, Frances! Obviously,
> I do not think he holds that opinion.
> 
> No one is trying to pry into Collins's private fantasy....
> these are publicly stated opinions of his! And they affect
> his co-workers view of them, and the public's view of the
> NIH.
> 
> 
> Frances Prevas wrote:
> > It isn't his opinion that women are inferior. So he's
> already shown that he can compartmentalize his religion and
> science.
> > 
> > We can't ask for anything more.
> > 
> > When you start to pry into people's private fantasies,
> you come dangerously close to thought crimes and the
> Inquisition.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Darren Gates <[address removed]>
> wrote:
> > 
> >???
> >> From: Darren Gates <[address removed]>
> >> Subject: Re: [atheists-487] Obama appointment
> >> To: [address removed]
> >> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:18 PM
> >> suppose that his opinion was that
> >> women are inferior to men (this is just an
> analogy!)...
> >> 
> >> Suppose also that his opinion is JUST his private
> fantasy and he never actually denies women any top-level
> appointments, and he treats women in the workplace
> equally, etc.... BUT he write a book about how inferior
> women are to men. Would you want him leading the NIH? I
> wouldn't.
> >> 
> >> My contention is that regardless of his accolades,
> or even his public behavior and work ethic... a single,
> privately held opinion can make someone unqualified.
> >> 
> >> Frances Prevas wrote:
> >>? ???
> I have seen nothing that indicates that
> Collins' religion is anything other than his private
> fantasy, with no effect on anything that really matters.
> ? ???
> It would be inappropriate or illegal for an
> adminstrator to act on the assumption that women
> are inferior to men, so I'm sure that the Obama
> adminstration has vetted him for that.
 ???
> There is an Obama appointment that is more
> worth worrying about - Alexia Kelly, a Catholic woman
> who was appointed to one of the "faith based" offices who
> rejects abortion and birth control. ???
> >>> http://www.salon....­




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