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Backpack down Manistee Trail, up North Country Trail / Kayaking option on Sunday

There is so much to decide and discuss about this trip, I hope everyone who can will attend the meeting the tue before.  But the most important issue was brought up by a member of the group whose opinion I respect greatly in regards to the possible difficulty of the trip verses the inexperience of many of the rsvps.  And I agree it is a valid point.  Her proposition is as follows:

Start at Seton Creek (car camp first night as originally planned), hike 3 miles and set up camp next to the waterfall. The waterfall area provides an excellent water source from a spring fed, ice cold waterfall. Then those who are more experienced can do the hiking down to Redbridge which is an additional 7 miles one way, 14 miles round trip back to our campsite next to the waterfall. For those who are less experienced, or want a relaxing day, they can go swimming in the river, hang out by the waterfall, do shorter day hikes etc... Then on Sunday, hike 3 miles back to Seaton Creek and then go kayaking. That way the experienced and beginners can all have options. I like the fact that you have included kayaking in this trip. Of all the years that I've gone, I have always wanted to kayak the Manistee River, but never have. So I am especially looking forward to that part!

I like this suggestion for a few reasons.  First, many people have already expressed fear of hiking so far with a pack in one day; second, other people have warned me that there is no way anyone will be able to hike back in time for, or have the energy to, kayak the river on Sunday.

The best part is that we don’t all have to do the same thing.  Some of us are amazing hikers, some average, and some just starting out.  To all do the same thing at the same time would frustrate some, and/or punish others.

I like the idea of us all hanging out together for the first night and starting the hike together.  After that, some will backpack the entire trail as originally planned, and some won’t.  If it’s super hot, more people will want to be in the water.  If it’s cool, maybe more people will want to hike farther.  The point is, you don’t even have to decide now.

Rod has proposed carpooling with me fairly early on Friday.  Can anyone else leave early?  The meeting will also be a great place to find carpools.  I don’t have a formal itinerary for the meeting, and would rather the hikers most experienced with the area do most of the talking (if they show up).  But most of all I want to gage experience level and what people want to do.

Below is information sent to me by a ranger.  As you can see, you will still need to spend some money when you get there, but the $10 you spent to rsvp will go toward what I will pay for everyone when I get there early.  And let’s try to drive as few cars there as possible to save the earth as well as parking fees.

If you rsvped and can no longer attend, you can try to sell your spot to someone else.  But if you can’t sell it, please cancel your rsvp so I know not to look for and worry about you.

 

 

Hi Jim,

Here is the link for Seaton Creek Campground:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/hmnf/recreation/camping-cabins/recarea/?recid=18880&actid=29

It is $14 per site per night and there is a day use fee for parking your vehicles at the trailhead $4.00 per vehicle per day.

Here is the link for the Manistee River Trail:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/hmnf/recreation/hiking/recarea/?recid=18710&actid=51

Here is the Manistee River Trail and North Country Trail Map showing dispersed campsites, Seaton Creek Campground, etc.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5373964.pdf

If you need additional info. please consult our website:

http://www.fs.usda.gov/recmain/hmnf/recreation

Have a great trip!

Kathy Bietau

Recreation Planner

Baldwin Ranger District

650 N. Michigan Ave.Drawer D

Baldwin, Michigan49304

Phone:  [masked] ext.3117

FAX:  [masked]

 

Quick facts of the trip:

COST: $10 to RSVP (which will be applied to campground) $25 group discount rate for kayaking

Friday: Carpool to Seaton Creek Campground, spend the night

Saturday: Wake up early, good breakfast, pack, backpack between 10 and 12 miles down Manistee Trail, set up camp, play games and rest

Sunday: Start hiking back to campground early on the North Country Trail, drive to Wilderness Canoe, kayak 4 to 5hr down river, eat our remaining food together, drive home and feel great about our accomplishments

Even though I don’t yet have all the facts that I need to plan this trip in detail (the campground isn’t even open yet), I have a solid enough plan to post this event now to gage general interest. Assuming we get at least 12 people, we’ll be able to get group discounts on Sunday kayaking. The last time I backpacked the Manistee Forest trail, 26 people RSVPed yes. The day before the trip that number decreased by 10. Only 5 people actually made it. It was still a great trip, but that level of no-shows is no fun for anyone. The only I know to decrease the likelihood of no-shows is to charge just $10 to RSVP. The money will go toward the campsites.

Although it is important that you have some backpacking experience to go on this trip, even if you have zero experience right now, you can still be more than prepared by then. Many of you (about 20 out of the 45 who RSVPed, and 48 changed their minds) joined me for the Pre-Backpacking Simulation before the meet n greet or the actual Backpacking Simulation event (Phil and Emily were the only two at both:-). Of course, if you’ve taken classes somewhere else or have experience already, that will do. But it would be dangerous to show up for a backpacking event like this with zero experience and no necessary gear. Of course people will help you out, but it’s rude to completely take advantage of others that way. We will have a meeting at my house on May 28th at 7PM before leaving for the trip to help semi-beginners decide exactly what they will need.

There are many items you will need for yourself, and others you can share.

WHAT YOU MUST OWN (or borrow)

Comfortable hiking boots or supportive shoes (you can wear tennis shoes, but not “officially” recommended)

Comfortable wicking attire and hiking socks (no cotton socks, ever!, expect for sleeping)

A small light tent, or carrying parts of a larger tent you will share with friends

A backpack with enough space to carry your gear (be sure to practice hiking with)

Enough light backpacking food to last you the weekend (no canned food, for example)

A waterproof covering for you and your pack (can be cheap poncho)

Sleeping pad of some kind to sleep on

Sleeping bag (it might be hot enough to just wear your cloths to bed)

Headlamp (they can be very cheap and everyone should own at least one)

Mp3 player (OK, you certainly don’t need one, but I do.)

WHAT YOU SHOULD BRING IF YOU HAVE IT, BUT CAN SHARE

Backpacking stove of some kind, if you borrow, consider carrying or paying for fuel

Water purifier (we don’t all need one, but filters do wear out, so consider that)

First aid kit (I hope a few people bring them and know how to use them, indicate in RSVP)

There are many more items you need and will want to bring, so consider the lists above nothing more than a suggestion on where you should start. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to get a backpacking book from your library and learn from experts, who I certainly am not, and have never held myself out to be.

We will be backpacking on this date regardless of the weather forecast. It might be cold or very hot; it might rain or hail. Either way, it will give you a story and make you a better hiker. Once you RSVP with your $10 it will not be refunded, but you may sell your spot to someone else if you find you can no longer go. Because campground space will be limited and “first come, first serve” (which is why I’ll drive up there very early to reserve it all in person for us, which is the only way one can reserve it), this event is limited to 20 people. Of course, even with the deposit, it’s unlikely that more than 15 people will actually make it. That’s just the way it is. It’s very important that we work out carpools, food, phone number sharing, and gear sharing before we actually leave at the meeting at my house on May 28th at 7PM for participants only.

This websites is one of my many sources: http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/ViewTrip/536117

Here’s the bottom line: of course I want you to do your best to prepare yourself in every way a responsible person should. But we’re really not hiking much more in a day than we did at the simulation, and everyone managed that just fine. We won’t let anyone go hungry, thirsty, or suffer from exposure. This experience should be accessible to anyone who thinks they can walk 13 miles with a pack on their back in a day, which should be everyone who doesn’t have terrible health problems. I would be honored if your first ever backpacking experience was with us. And Sunday night, in your bed (where you can’t feel your blisters:-), exhausted but content, I am confident you’ll think about your first post-Memorial Day weekend experience with pride and joy.

 

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  • Lee K

    Dylan recently announced he cannot lead the end-of-August hiking trip at Pictured Rocks due to work complications. We have a new leader named Dave, and I have stepped up to arrange carpools, and hotel reservations for the last night. We had such a great group on this trip, I hope to see some of you again there. Only 20 spaces due to limited campsites -- there are spaces, but it is filling up. Hope to see you all there!

    August 6, 2013

    • Elisabeth

      My plans for Labor Day weekend *just* changed, so I'm debating whether or not I can spare the time and join everyone for the UP trip. A week is a long time to be gone, but it's one hell of a place to go. I should estimate the cost of gas to see what I'm looking at financially. I'd want to leave for home on Friday or early Saturday so I'd have as much of Labor Day weekend left.

      August 12, 2013

    • Lee K

      Elis., i hope u can make it to the pre meeting on aug 20.

      August 13, 2013

  • Keith

    Hi everyone... Appalachian Trail anyone?

    It's been a few months since I have seen u guys. I would like to extend an invitation to everyone and anyone to join me on the Appalachian trail. I will be departing detroit on August 30 and plan on hiking it for at least a month. I gotta be back for a friend's wedding mid October. I'm still deciding on which part to hike. Or if any of you want to join me for just a few days, that's cool too. Anyways... Lemme know if u have an interest

    Cheers
    -Keith

    August 11, 2013

  • Lee K

    Hello everyone! I'm "leading"... well maybe "hosting" a 5 mile hike in Brighton this Saturday, plus picnic afterwards. Come on out if you're not busy.

    August 8, 2013

  • Staten T. M.

    Just bought my rei doo rag. Thanks someone for the recommendation. Phil maybe?

    1 · June 20, 2013

  • Lee K

    Hello everyone! I've signed up for the end-of-August hiking trip at Pictured Rocks. We had such a great group on this trip, I hope to see some of you again there. Only 20 spaces due to limited camp sites. Also, on July 14, there is an MAC all-sport event near Brighton -- it's a great place to brings friends and family. Hope to see you all there!

    1 · June 13, 2013

  • Jim S

    what an awesome, tough, and fun group! i think most of us (including me) hiked a personal record. we lucked out with the rain, but i'm a bit sad about not kayaking on sunday because of the cold. but we were still lucky with the weather overall. please tell me i'm not the only one who is limping today because of soreness. my physical therapist told me today i can't do another one for a month:-(

    1 · June 3, 2013

    • David

      Thanks Jim. Great event! I am happy I was able to be a part ing it. I liked the bar over kayaking. Too bad about your therapist, I thought we could all do another 20 miles this weekend.

      June 4, 2013

  • Brent S.

    I started running over may backpacking gear and wondered if any one needed anything? I have a ton of extra gear and don't mind sharing. I live in Lansing and know the NCT and MRT pretty well. Let me know what you need and I'll check my inventory.

    1 · May 15, 2013

    • Elisabeth

      I forgot to tell you that at the meeting Phil offered to loan me a sleeping pad as well as a sleeping bag. We're carpooling together, so it made the most sense to borrow both from him. I apologize if I inconvenienced you. See you this evening!

      May 31, 2013

    • Jim S

      thanks again for the polls

      June 3, 2013

  • Jimbo

    Had a great time! Thankful it only rained at night too

    3 · June 2, 2013

    • Lee K

      Jim really planned the timing of the rain so well...

      June 3, 2013

    • Jim S

      i work hard to appease the rain gods

      June 3, 2013

  • Rod

    Had a good time - - lots of laughs (and pain). Would have preferred mileage to be split roughly 50/50 between both days instead of 70/30. Really liked both trails and would hike them again! Will post whatever good pictures I have.

    June 2, 2013

    • Lee K

      Yes, but now we know what to avoid: potential lightening and killer winds, freezing to death, and participating in forced marches! What better way to learn than by experience???!!! Just kidding! Great hiking with you!

      June 3, 2013

    • Jim S

      yes, i hear you, but i like getting the toughest part of anything out of the way first. makes me feel better. and i really did want to kayak.

      June 3, 2013

  • Dylan C.

    This was a great weekend and a great group. I'm impressed that we hiked 18 miles the first day, and I didn't hear anyone talk about cutting it short. We got very lucky with the weather. I didn't expect to make it the whole way with dry feet. We were also lucky that only one person fell off a cliff!

    Thanks for organizing this Jim! I'm surprised you were still in good spirit after sleeping on the cold ground for two days because of a leaking air pad. Can't wait to see what your next backpacking event will be :-)

    1 · June 2, 2013

    • Lee K

      In my carpool on the way home, someone who went to bed early asked me about a puzzling, piercing scream penetrating the quiet dark skies that awoke him from a sound sleep... he heard it has something to do a CLIFF, and is convinced he recognized the voice, but I told him that what happens at Campsite 7 stays at Campsite 7 and that no one would ever discuss it further with him!!!!!!! :)

      June 3, 2013

  • Keith

    It was nice to meet everyone and go on that adventure. Very pleasant experience!

    1 · June 2, 2013

    • Lee K

      Keith, I hope we see you again! If someone turned our group into a reality TV show, somehow I feel like you'd be one of the show's stars!

      1 · June 3, 2013

  • Staten T. M.

    Fabulous. The weather was as it should be for backcountry adventures. Ie.: Cold and damp.

    June 2, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Wish I could go. I have done this hike many times and anyone going for the first time, you will LOVE IT!!!!

    May 31, 2013

  • Ashwin H.

    Anyone leaving from Ann Arbor interested in carpooling? I need a ride from Lansing (can leave anytime Friday)....

    May 24, 2013

    • Jim G.

      Ashwin , I'm leaving Brighton area around 6 or 7 on Friday, coming home after kayaking around 6pm Sunday. I could head north thru Lansing? Jim G text me [masked]

      May 30, 2013

    • Brent S.

      Ok I'm headed out now to reserve so spots at seaton creek. See you there Ashwin. If you get this shortly and still need a ride call or text me at[masked]

      May 31, 2013

  • Dylan C.

    1 · April 9, 2013

  • Jim S

    i'm so excited. i think i'm packed. this time sunday evening i will be aglow with pride from having hiked 22 miles (half in rain), then sup another 4 hours on sunday. what an awesome weekend (spent with great people).

    May 31, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      I'm going to ask Kt to hide your SUP if you haven't loaded it yet. lol

      What time are you headed up? See you shortly.

      May 31, 2013

  • Caryn ;.

    Hey guys, have fun! It was beautiful last weekend and I wish ya the same... But Seaton creek can be tough to find... We made a left on 37 in Mesick... Right on west 26... Another rt on S Hopendyl... And another right on McClush which takes you right into the campground :-)

    May 31, 2013

  • Lee K

    CARPOOLS: (Please add carpooling comments to this string...)
    If you'd like to join a carpool, please contact the person directly, and add a reply if you take a space.

    Available space (to contact someone, scroll up to the "Attending" list and click on their picture to get to their page. Then, under their name, click on "Send e-mail." It will get sent to their e-mail box. Dave from Troy (the first David listed) has one spot left. Departing Friday at noon from Troy. Departing up north at 6 pm ish on Sunday.

    Dave W. from Novi (2nd David on the list) has room for one other person besides himself. Not sure when leaving Friday, I think he said 4 pm ish, but he is definitely departing for home at 2 pm on Sunday.

    Jim Guy from South Lyon, departing Friday at 7 pm, Departing for home at 6 pm on Sunday. Can take three more from BRIGHTON, MI area. Please update on this thread... thanks! See you all there...

    May 29, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      Yup, could you pick me up at this location? I'll leave my car there, it's not too far from REI.
      https://maps.google.co...­

      I'll see you at 1:00. If you can't find it, call[masked]

      May 30, 2013

    • Staten T. M.

      See you then. I'm[masked]

      May 31, 2013

  • Staten T. M.

    Looks like rain.

    May 28, 2013

    • Staten T. M.

      Im trying to leave at 1pm or so Friday from Ann Arbor. Need to make an rei stop. Im bringing scotch. Better liquor to weight ratio.

      May 30, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      I'm bringing Everclear, even better ratio. It's like drinking gasoline though...

      May 30, 2013

  • Julia G

    I just got stuck with a big project at work for the weekend.. Can't go away. Have fun everyone! I'm sad to be missing this trip.

    May 30, 2013

  • Jim G.

    If anyone is interested on Saturday morning I will be driving down to red bridge trailhead and hiking north on the MRT to the waterfall campsite to meet up with some of the group. ( 8 miles ) Then on Sunday morning head back down MRT to trailhead and go kayaking with the rest of the Kayakers.

    May 30, 2013

  • Aaron

    Sorry for the last minute drop; but at least a wait list might get in!

    May 29, 2013

  • Staten T. M.

    Might be cool with rain Sunday.

    May 29, 2013

  • Barbara

    I won't be able to join in the hike. Was hoping my foot doctor would give me the okay to go back to work today, henceforth able to hike. I can stop following the weather radar now. Whoever is next on the waiting list your RSVP is on me! Enjoy the weekend!

    May 29, 2013

  • Jim S

    i just confirmed with the kayaking place[masked] that they are open until 7pm on sunday and offer different parts of the river, either a 2 or 5 hours trip. of course, 5 hr means 3.5 hr if you're going to paddle at all, so that is the trip i will want to take. that means we'll need to be back to camp no later than 1:30 in order to get to the kayaking place and check in. but if you are late or super tired, you can do the much shorter trip. but the rental price is the same for both.

    1 · May 29, 2013

  • Elisabeth

    Forgot to ask at the meeting: does anyone know about UV water purifiers? I have one home right now that I haven't opened up nor have I figured out how it compares cost wise to other options. It seems like we might be tight on sharing purifiers (and stoves).

    1 · May 28, 2013

    • Josh W.

      http://www.outdoorgea...­ I'm not sure if that'll work but I tried to compare the 4 categories for water treatment to show you. I've never personally used the steripen or the drops though. I have the katadyn and love the thing. For the uv light one you'll need a bandana or something else to act as a pre filter or you'll end up with crunchy water.

      May 29, 2013

    • David

      I use a steripen (uv) but prestrain with a 1micron cone filter. It works well and is light and not bulky. I should have some extra filters. I will look tonight.

      May 29, 2013

  • Lee K

    I'm not paying toooo close attention to the weather, bc I'm going regardless!!!! Interesting... weather.com says 40% chance of rain on Saturday, while wunderground.com says 20%. Not to mention any prediction under 30-40% always seems to be wrong!! What do you all use? I expect to get rained on at some point...

    May 29, 2013

    • Jim G.

      I'm not expecting to get rained on... i'm going with weatherunderground. lol

      May 29, 2013

  • David

    I like to think of it as 60% chance of not rain ... or a good chance to try out my rain gear.

    May 29, 2013

  • Barbara

    I have been watching the radar and weather reports and there is a 40% chance of rain for Saturday. I work outdoors in all weather without a choice. I enjoy hiking and camping, but In that i have a choice if i want to get rained on. I will decide Friday morning if I am still going. If not, anyone on the waiting list can have my spot. No refund necessary. My treat to that person who wants to get wet!

    May 29, 2013

  • Dylan C.

    Jim, why did you delete and re-write the event description? This is a good idea for an event, but it's completely different from the event most of us signed up for and have planned for. Before this change, we were just working out the details... where to park, where to camp, which direction to do the loop. What is left to decide on Tuesday?

    When this was first posted, it was a serious group-backpacking trip with kayaking as an unrealistic option. Now, it's one night of car camping and a short hike, then everyone is supposed to play in the river or do whatever they feel like. This does allow time for kayaking on Sunday. Is kayaking more important to you than backpacking?

    Over the 1000 character limit, to be continued...

    May 26, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      I think my previous comment was unclear and it has been misconstrued. I said: Everyone who signed up for this should be able to do it… I didn’t mean that people who are unprepared should be able to do it. Jim has planned this for months. He had a 13 mile practice hike to make sure everyone can do a long hike with confidence. I also hosted 8 & 10 mile practice hikes to help everyone prepare.

      To do this safely, it’s important to have good planning, personal preparation, leadership, communication and group cohesiveness. If someone gets in trouble, the entire group they’re hiking with should be available to assist or get more help. If someone starts suffering from exhaustion or another problem, it’s important that the rest of the group notices, offers to help, and doesn’t keep hiking to the destination obliviously.

      more...

      May 28, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      I will cheerfully do whatever Long Version Jim decides on, but I’d like to know what the Long Version is and who is doing it before we drive up. We’ll figure this out shortly.

      May 28, 2013

  • Dylan C.

    There were many comments and suggestions given, here's my summary for purposes of discussion tomorrow:

    1) The original plan – start hiking at the north end, down MRT Saturday, back up the NCT side on Sunday.

    2) The way I did this on Caryn's trip - start at Red Bridge on Saturday morning, backpack up NCT and do several miles down MRT to a campsite. Finish hiking back to Red Bridge on Sunday.

    3) The way Kelly did it - We did 9 miles the first night, stayed at a site on the NCT side and had 3-4 miles to hike out to the Red Bridge (?) area. Then another 5-6ish to an open site (unless they've changed things, sites are not reserved but First come first get), then 4ish out the last day.

    4) Ashwin's suggestion - leave car at Red Bridge, hike MRT only, starting from the north end.

    Over the 1000 character limit – to be continued...

    May 27, 2013

    • Charity M.

      Dylan, Although your input is appreciated, you're making this far more complicated than what it needs to be. There are two versions, my short version and Jims long version. If you want to make a version of your own, feel free to talk to those who you will be traveling with, Or post a separate trip. Allow the two leaders in this group to lead the trip. We have done this trip many years in a row, Have over 10 years of backpacking knowledge and experience, and know what we are doing to make an enjoyable trip for all. To keep confusion low for others, Any other input you have, feel free to contact Jim directly, attend the meeting tonight or again, post your own separate trip for those who would like to do the full loop. Just make sure to coordinate with Jim to make sure that your efforts are not duplicated. Thank you.

      May 28, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      Excellent, I like having fewer options. I’ll be there.

      May 28, 2013

  • Staten T. M.

    I would like to carpool. I am leaving from Bowling Green and have a 4 door Nissan pickup. I can meet at Ann Arbor or points North.

    May 28, 2013

  • Charity M.

    I will be leading the "Short-Version" of the trip, while Jim will be leading the "Long Version" of the trip.

    For those who are beginners or just want to be in the shorter version of the group, here is my itinerary: http://www.meetup.com/MI-adventurers/pages/Manistee_Backpacking_-_Short_Version_Itinerary/

    For a list of what to pack for Backpacking go to:

    http://www.meetup.com/MI-adventurers/pages/Backpacking_Essentials/

    May 26, 2013

    • Charity M.

      You will have to talk to Jim directly about your question Dylan. If for some reason Jim does not do the NCT, that does not mean that those of you who want to do the full loop have to forgo it. You can feel free to branch off and do the full loop with others who are interested in it as well. There are 20 people attending. I highly doubt all 20 people will want to do the exact same loop as you Dylan. Everyone is getting there a day early, and that is a good time to sit down and discuss who wants to go with what group. Carpooling should remain the same regardless. Everyone is arriving On the same day and leaving on the same day.

      May 27, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      Carpooling is complicated because some may be hiking 3 miles out on Sunday while others are hiking 12. That means several hours difference in when they want to go home. The 5-hour kayak trip is another carpooling wildcard.

      May 27, 2013

  • Barbara

    Hi, I will be doing the short version. I can leave anytime on Friday. The earlier the better. I have room for carpoolers if anyone is in the Royal Oak area. I plan on leaving for home on Sunday after returning to Seaton creak camp.

    May 27, 2013

  • Jess

    I forgot this is the weekend of my daughter's performance in a play.

    May 26, 2013

  • Jim G.

    Anyone interested in carpool, I will be leaving from Brighton area, Friday night about 7:00pm give or take an hour.
    Text me[masked]

    May 25, 2013

  • AL E.

    One of my favorite hikes. I met up with the MAC group at the Waterfall 2 years ago (Charity, Max, Don L, Hyder and the gang) and had a great time. If I get free this coming weekend I may hike in solo just to say hi to the gang.

    Cheers, Al

    1 · May 24, 2013

  • David A.

    I am interested in this trip and have experience with backpacking. I may want to go fishing instead of kayaking on Sunday. Let me know if a spot becomes available.
    -Dave

    May 24, 2013

  • Keith

    My first meetup event ever! I'm excited to do this and meet everyone!! :)

    May 23, 2013

  • Jimbo

    Unfortunately I cannot make the meeting. I am leaving early afternoon on Friday from the Ann Arbor area if anyone wants to ride with me. I'm not sure if I will kayak on Sunday and probably won't decide for sure until Sunday morning...I am bringing my tent that I can share with one other, a water filter and stove to share with whoever needs it

    May 23, 2013

  • Marcos

    Has anyone started discussing carpooling? I'd like to know if anyone from the Detroit area is willing to pick me up in the carpool?

    May 15, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      Who is leaving from Ann Arbor?

      May 17, 2013

    • Marcos

      I am still looking for someone to carpool with from Grosse Pointe, Detroit, Southfield area. I would not be able to leave until about 4 pm, but I can leave right at 4. Let me know if anyone is still looking to fill their car with one more.

      1 · May 21, 2013

  • Rod

    I'd be happy to drive (or pool). I have a Trailblazer & live 2 miles NE of Mt Holly. I'd also be willing to drive/pool with Jim early Friday to help reserve campsites for the group. Can discuss in pre-meeting in 9 days.

    May 19, 2013

  • David

    Great Post! I have done this loop 2 years in a row. It is a fun trip. Need to figure out if I have to take Friday off (I work until 5pm in Plymouth). I also signed up for the pre-event meeting. I look forward to meeting everyone.

    May 17, 2013

  • Elisabeth

    Is there someone who is willing to share his/her stove and/or water purifier? As someone new to backpacking, purchasing these two items just isn't happening right now. Agreed upon compensation is up for grabs. Plus, who can resist that smile?

    May 16, 2013

    • Staten T. M.

      You can share mine. I'm sure we will have multiple stoves in the group.

      May 16, 2013

  • Phil P.

    I'm looking for something to do Memorial weekend. I have Fri, Sat, Sun & Monday off. Possibly the Jordan River loop but not sure if it would be too crowded or not. Anyone know for sure?

    May 16, 2013

  • Phil P.

    I started my hike from the South end. I parked in the parking lot just North of Coates Hwy on Upper River Road and hiked the NCT side first with full water. There is a campsite on this Side just a couple miles in called Red Hill. I didn't camp there but it looked nice. I pushed around to the Manistee Side and camped there. It would be possible to Stay at Red Hill Friday night and hike to the Manistee side the next day. You would need to carry enough water in to last you Friday and most of Saturday till we reach our first water at the very north end of the loop. I uploaded a couple maps to see what I am talking about.

    1 · March 27, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      I like the idea of doing a loop instead of re-hiking the same trail. The NCT side is challenging and not as picturesque, but it's worth doing. Last year we started hiking at Red Bridge and did NCT first, then had the spectacular MRT to look forward to on Sunday.

      1 · May 16, 2013

    • Phil P.

      That's what I did too. That worked out really good.

      May 16, 2013

  • Ashwin H.

    Can we spot a car on the southern tip of MRT(Red Bridge access site) on Friday? I have a busy Monday, so I would like to either drive to the kayak rental Sunday morning(skipping the NCT hike) or drive back home, depending on when we wake up. It would be awesome if anyone else is interested in this plan. If not, can someone please pick me up from Red bridge site Friday night(I'll park my car there).

    May 15, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi guys. Any possibility I can get on a waiting list?

    May 2, 2013

  • Joseph

    Hi, new to the group, but looking forward to enjoying the nature with you all.

    May 2, 2013

  • Ashwin H.

    I would prefer doing just the 8 mile MRT at a very slow pace. We can go slow and take in the scenic views, birds and shrooms... Of course, if the group wants to do the 14 mile NCT too, I'm cool with that, as long as we stop for a 2 minute break every time my heart goes tachycardic on those slopes....

    1 · April 1, 2013

    • Dylan C.

      Everyone will be able to do the full loop if you have good footwear and take your time. Don't let these discussions worry you. I'll stay with the slower hikers, no one will be left behind.

      We're bound to have faster and slower hikers. We just need to decide whether to rejoin fast and slow groups at lunch, at every intersection, or not until camp.

      I actually enjoy hiking with a heavy pack because I like to be really tired at the end of the day. I'm going to try and pack a little heavier than I did last year. Partly this is because I'm training for a Tough Mudder in June and it will be a good workout.

      For anyone else, I recommend lightening your load if practical. This hike will be much easier if you do a couple 10+ mile practice hikes first with your pack and hiking footwear. This isn't a good trip to break in a new pair of shoes. Going up and down hills can make your feet slide in your shoes and cause blisters if they don't fit well.

      April 1, 2013

    • Ashwin H.

      Phil, Dylan - Thank you for the advice. I'll make sure I pack light and prepare for this over the next 60 days.

      April 1, 2013

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