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Discipline & Punish

We will begin the reading of Discipline & Punish: The Birth of the Prison (Paris, 1975) by Michel Foucault. This book is available in both paperback and as an ebook for around $12. Since this meeting will be at an interval of four weeks instead of the usual three, we are assigning the first two parts of the book for the 18th (135 pages). Foucault can be rather difficult to read sometimes and we don't want to punish anyone who might find this a bit much, so do the best you can. But we feel that if you stay on top of it and read a bit each day you can accomplish this. Just remember: discipline and don't punish.

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  • Corrinne B

    Tomorrow night, part three, right?

    April 7, 2013

    • Curt H.

      Right. Part III, Discipline.

      April 7, 2013

  • Curt H.

    Another good discussion. What more can one say?

    April 5, 2013

  • Corrinne B

    Yes, the video is perfect and funny. I also loved watching Foucault and Chompsky. How much do we read for next time and could you remind me of the time frame? I am still full of Cuba brain and a cold. Enjoyed the discussion which always gives me more to think about.

    1 · March 20, 2013

  • Jon A.

    Andrea, that monkey video is fantastic! It's all we need for understanding our troubles with income inequality.

    1 · March 20, 2013

  • Richard M.

    Here is the link to the Foucault/Chomsky debate on YouTube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veR8GOcrFOg

    Unfortunately Foucault speaks in French and the English subtitles are superimposed over Dutch subtitles which makes them a bit hard to read.

    2 · March 19, 2013

  • Andrea

    This is off topic, but at meet-up tonight, Fairness was brought up. All I could think of during that time was this Fairness Study video. Hope you enjoy. :)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKhAd0Tyny0

    March 18, 2013

  • Corrinne B

    Tomomi, can you specify the Robin Hood link? not working from my email.

    March 18, 2013

  • Corrinne B

    Just back from Cuba last night. See you tonight to talk about Foucault. Brutal and interesting reading. I will look over Robin Hood in Wikipedia to catch up!

    March 18, 2013

  • Tomomi

    An interesting read in relation to this is the Wikipedia entry on Robin Hood.

    March 18, 2013

  • John S.

    I’m a member here—haven’t attended events yet; just saw the Discipline & Punish notice. I've some expertise in Foucault. My background with him and related work and issues might let me be of help to others in approaching his efforts, background, theories, and Discipline & Punish. I first encountered him in 1995—end of my BA in polisci at the U. I feel a great intellectual affinity with him; D&P is one of the most important and influential books for me intellectually and a personal favorite. I was ABD in Government at Cornell; rec’d an MA. Passed the PhD qualifying exam in political theory, my primary field. Continental theory was big in our dept., and both my undergrad and grad advisors were Foucault scholars. I’ve never published. I’m not prepared to attend tomorrow, but would the group be interested in having me help lead a discussion or present about D&P and Foucault generally sometime else in the series? Would love to do it and share what I know if it would be of help. Thanks.

    March 17, 2013

    • John S.

      Sure. I was thinking more along the lines of offering clarifying comments, answering questions, explanations of broader issues involved--like intellectual traditions he was responding to and engaged with, his style, etc. for a discussion rather than trying to "teach" the book.

      March 17, 2013

    • Tomomi

      Although I'm not sure it would be useful to your ends or not, I'll point out that meetup.com has a discussion board feature attached to each meetup group, and which you could use for assorted purposes.

      March 18, 2013

  • Tomomi

    Oh, if anyone's going my way (26th & riverside), a boost would be groovy.

    March 17, 2013

  • Gina

    Has anyone started reading this book and if so what do you think of it so far.

    March 2, 2013

    • Curt H.

      I haven't read much of Foucault before, but this is about what I expected: sometimes rather dense. According to one source, Foucault felt he couldn't be taken seriously as a French intellectual unless his writing was dense. So whenever I get to a 'What the hell are you talking about?' section, I just plow through it and hope to get the gist of what he's saying as I go. So far it seems to be working. I also think he gives scant evidence for his conclusions and that there are other ways to interpret the why's and where's of punishment. It should make an interesting discussion.

      March 13, 2013

    • Tomomi

      Amateurs. Pffft!

      March 17, 2013

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