Re: [The-Medina-We-Surround-Them] Re: Maybe Its Time To Seriously Consider Secession?

From: Wayne S.
Sent on: Monday, November 12, 2012 7:58 PM
   It's not a question of who is and who isn't allied with us.  Every state in the union has people on our side and every state has people content to let the Feds inject themselves into people's most private aspects of their lives.....as long as the handouts keep coming.  Like Rush says:  Too many people want to live a comfy life-style they are not prepared to work for, but they know the Feds will give it to them anyway if they don't make trouble and do as they're told. 
     It's a matter of civil resistance on our parts to the Federal authorities unlawful demands on our lives and making our point that we intend to be obedient to the Constitution and also making the point that the Feds are doing almost everything they do outside of the bounds of their Consttutionally delegated authority. 
     I've had "interactions" with DEA, FBI and IRS agents on a regular basis for 16 of the last 20 months.  When you know you're right and they're wrong and you look them in the eye and let them know you aren't going to see things from their point of view just because they're the Feds they have a habit of losing some of that high and mighty attitude they possess.  The Feds are nothing to be afraid of.  They put their pants on one leg at a time just like we do.
 
Wayne S.
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Sent: Monday, November 12,[masked]:32 PM
Subject: Re: [The-Medina-We-Surround-Them] Re: Maybe Its Time To Seriously Consider Secession?

What needs to be considered is not if they know about us, they do.

Consider can Ohio stand alone? If not who does it align with? Does each states petition reflect that states opinion? If that's the case and our grievances are different from Michigan can we actually join together? Remember our Founders agreed to an unanimous list of grievances. Many states have drawn up their own list.

As for retaliation, I do not fear for my self but for my parents siblings and other family members. They have not joined this fight as we have but have voiced their approval of our beliefs and actions.

What we decide and do will have lasting consequences.

Ralph Spampanato 
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On Nov 12, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Robert Heed <[address removed]> wrote:

Great point Wayne

On Monday, November 12, 2012, Wayne Stovcik wrote:
We've already exposed ourselves.  If you're going to be afraid to act or express your opinion because the Feds might identify you then they've got you right where they want you.  The Feds already know enough about all of us to know everything we're up to.  So be it.  And we know enough about them to know what they're up to.  Our intentions are honorable.  We want to preserve the Constitution above everything else.  Their intentions are dishonorable and they know it and they know we know it.  At this point none of us has anything to lose if we keep on doing what we're doing because If we do nothing we lose it all anyway.
 
Wayne Stovcik
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 4:34 PM
Subject: [The-Medina-We-Surround-Them] Re: Maybe Its Time To Seriously Consider Secession?

I agree, unless this grows to the point where DC is isolated.  Kind of doubt it, but you never know where this could lead.  

The Soviets used to start their own uprisings, just to get the resistance members to expose themselves.  That's always in the back of my mind too when Secession becomes the topic of conversation.

The States are in no position to defend themselves yet.  IMHO, that's where we'd need to start.  

On Monday, November 12, 2012, Ralph Spampanato <[address removed]> wrote:
> I prefer the Gagdsten flag idea.
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> If Ohio is to consider sucession it needs to be thought out long and hard.
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> This has been all over twitter for a few days.   Believe it or not, Lousiana was
> the first petition filed, but Texas is close to the signatures requested.   Last
> I checked, Ohio didn't have one started yet:
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> https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions
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> The other thing being discussed on twitter is people are putting the American
> flag upside down.  Most people are requesting that they not do that, that they
> hoist the Gadsten (sp?/Don't tread on me) flag instead
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