Re: [Mid-CT-Photography-Meetup] Photo uploads

From: John M.
Sent on: Sunday, July 1, 2012 10:30 PM
As a sport photographer its all about spray and pray, crop until you get the image you want. An editor doesn't want more then 12 images because of limited space. Most articles have a story to go with the pictures(are we to do that). Then maybe, one person should upload 12 pictures? Who will it be? Who will tell the story? If your afraid of your vulnerabilities then how can you learn?

Is the meetup site to be the best of the best? Flicker to be the rest? How are the files going to be managed on Flicker(I just checked it it looks a mess)? How are people going to know about uploads?

Just a little dumbfounded about uploads... I think I'm going to hold off on uploads...  this is starting to be... to much like work... I'm not in the Magazine biz...

On 7/1/2012 9:33 PM, Dan Burns wrote:

Hello Sue,


I'm a full-time sports and adventure photographer and Massimo I couldn't disagree with you more.  I've spent 31 years shooting the NFL, MLB, wildlife in Alaska, Auto Racing and I rarely share my pictures with anyone aside from my client.   My colleagues and I rarely share with one another.  I often have shoots that require shooting thousands of images and I'm asked to do just what Sue has suggested, just give a few pictures to an editor.  They don't want to wade through tons of ho hum pictures.  Turn in a few pictures, dazzle your contemporaries and leave them begging for more.  When one posts too many pictures one exposures their vulnerabilities and their very best pictures become lost in a sea of mediocrity.

Sue, I feel you're generous by giving many people the opportunity to display 12 images.  By keeping the number reasonable you're requiring your photographers to become good editors.

Thank you,
Dan

On Jul 1, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Massimo Nittardi wrote:

Hi Sue, I'm writing in response to the email you sent a couple weeks back limiting how many pictures we can upload to an event album.  I was wondering what precipitated the sudden change in the way the group photo albums are used.

The reason I'm asking is because, in my opinion, limiting us to upload 12 images undermines several very important aspects of Meetup itself:
1. Mid-CT is a photography group and we meet to take photographs, so sharing them with others would seem like a natural consequence.
2. Given that each event is paired with a photo album, one would assume that sharing one's pictures with others would be encouraged (especially since many participants never upload anything at all).
3. Some events are small and some are very big.  Point in case, I just went to 2 huge events, the Coney Island parade and the Boston Buffet.  I took over 500 pictures at the first and around 400 at the second.  I don't think anyone would have an easy time picking 24 images out of over 900, which could even bring more people to just not bother uploading images at all (all that sifting is a lot of work!!).
4. When an event is particularly varied (like the Boston Buffet was) being able to post only 12 pictures means that I'd have to post about 1 per place visited.  Why bother taking shots from different angles and perspectives if only 1 will be used?  Doesn't this discourage creativity?
5. Being able to post only 12 shots doesn't allow one to show the breadth of the experience.  So much would be left out that once again, one would feel like "why bother going through the effort."  For instance, think of how many wonderful candid shots of the group participants would have to be left out to make room for the really creative shots, or vice versa.
6. Looking at other members' photos spurs creativity and improves knowledge.  So many times I've seen shots that captured something I hadn't thought of and want to recreate at some point in the future.  If there's such a small limit on what anyone can upload, I can't even begin to think of what I'm missing.

I understand that you created a new Flickr account where we can post however many pictures we want, but I cannot see myself ever bothering going there because of the nuisance of having to pick 12 for the Meetup site, which is our home base, and then log on somewhere else to add another batch, which is necessarily "less than" for not being part of the 12.

I, like many members I'm sure, have my own website, my Flickr account, Facebook, and Google+ where I post my work.  Having to go somewhere else just creates more work where none seemed necessary.

I respect your position as the organizer of the group, but I really have an issue with this arbitrary limit imposed on all the members, and I'd love to know how others might feel about it.

Thanks,
Massimo




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