Re: [Mid-CT-Photography-Meetup] Photo uploads

From: Sue F.
Sent on: Monday, July 2, 2012 1:48 PM
 
Writing as a member (having officially resigned as an organizer in January ) ...

 
Yes. We're a social meetup with a photography theme; not a photography course or club or
commercial media enterprise. It's not only about the 12 "technically" best shots.
Those who post to event albums on a regular basis post photos:
1) of the event or location
2) representing their personal growth in techniques & skills
3) of fellow photogs "in action"
4) showing experimentation in special processing or artistic variations  
5) of entertaining unrelated "side" shots spotted (sign, sight, etc.)    
6) of the social aspects (a group picnic, on the subway, "staging" a scene for fun, event momentos.)
Albums are very special indeed for many reasons.

"Unwieldy - we've never yet maxed out an album (500 photos) - not even with "Capture."
I wasn't aware of a problem with the albums and look forward to learning more about why the limit was
imposed. If some members were monopolizing the albums, then they can be asked privately not to rather
than limit everyone. They can post links to their other albums in a file on our very own website in the Boards.

I just can't see a photo group having a limit, but I'm not at all implying reckless overposting. And repetitions of
the same photos do not an interesting album make. But if there is space after most event participants have posted, why can't someone add
a few more photos... new versions created later using treatments? We stand to learn from every photo posted. If an
event only has 5 particpants, why should they be limited to a 60-photo album? What is the harm in posting more if
there is room?

We are adults. Once the reasons/concerns are explained to us, why can't members be given the responsibility to
monitor themselves accordingly and be asked to use more scrutiny and restraint in posting? (Do the photos have
special meaning for us? Might they be good examples of techniques from which others can learn? Was it an original
approach?)

It's about common sense and fairness. If 50 people RSVP, then members should assume the limit would be
around 10 each for a 500-photo album and shouldn't go posting 25 to 50 pics.
The bottom line is selectivity, restraint, sharing, and courtesy...and not overdoing it.
Can that be our policy instead of 12? Maybe we could practice professional editing as a challenge at a short event now and them.
"Post your best 5."

As a Flickr member...its free version allows only 300 MB per month. At @ 2.5 MB per photo, that's only 120 photos.
Less if the photos are 5 MB. Will Mid-CT have the unlimited $24.95 Pro account?
The site will require organization. Is someone going to be in charge of organizing the pics into sets and collections?
Plus... word has to get out. Maybe a file explaining all the photo posting guidelines/expectations/Flickr link
could be posted on the Boards. Newbies gotta know.
 
Sue
 
 
 
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Sue
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Beebe <[address removed]>
To: Mid-CT-Photography-Meetup-list <[address removed]>
Sent: Mon, Jul 2,[masked]:09 am
Subject: Re: [Mid-CT-Photography-Meetup] Photo uploads

  I also think 12 is a reasonable number. I am also sure no one is going to get upset, or point fingers if you can only narrow it down to 14 now and then. I really enjoy viewing all the meetup photos, pro or amateur, none of us have the same perspective on what looks perfect in a photo.
 Thanks Steve
 
In a message dated 7/2/2012 9:34:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
I usually don't comment, but I agree with Michael. As a photographer and more specifically a photo educator.....I know a beginning photographer might get 2 images out of 36 that are worth posting(can you tell I learned on film?) a good one might get 4 and a professional 6 or 7. If you use these numbers, you'd have to take a lot of images in order to hit the limit of 12. It's called editing my friends......happy shooting. :)

Eric

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:05 AM, michael <[address removed]> wrote:
12 photos seems more than reasonable to me as well.  I know that if i do a shoot, such as coney island, i think i took about 300 photos and have less than 12 that are actually worth posting... not because they aren't in focus, but most are snapshots.  There is nothing artful about most of them, and not worth uploading.  For me, the meetup serves as a place to learn what i might have missed at a shoot.  I like the challenge of being in the same place with a group of people and comparing the best of what they captured vs the best of what i captured.  That's how I learn.

The group leaders seem to have decided that a more focused effort in what you post is the way they would like the meetup group to be represented.  I think it's great that they also came up with a place for the current posting habits to continue as well.  Seems like a win-win to me.

there is a difference between photography as an art form and photography as a documentation of an event.  the 2 crossover sometimes, as when shooting a wedding or a sporting event.  The photo should evoke an emotion, or tell a story.  failing to do that, makes this mostly a social group with higher than average photo equipment, not a photography group.

-Mike


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Gregory Peel <[address removed]> wrote:
Twelve photos per member, per event seems like a really reasonable number to me as well.
 
Gregory Peel

 

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Subject: Re: [Mid-CT-Photography-Meetup] Photo uploads
Date: Mon, 2 Jul[masked]:16:20 -0400


YES, please just get along.

I understand Dan Burns point of view as a member he has every right to express it. If we all jump on the Massimo ban wagon then this is not a social group.

On 7/2/2012 6:12 AM, Kathy Payne wrote:

As a new member I would like to thank Massimo for a well written and respectful request for dialogue.  I'm not sure what Sue's thoughts are behind her request for just 12 pictures per member, per event, but I hope that we can all wait for her response.

Next, I also hope that emails back and forth with sniping disguised as "polite discourse" stop.  I have left other meet-ups when situations like this devolved into further nastier exchanges between just a few people, but which occurred in the public forum. 

Each person has a right to their opinion and I'm guessing that Massimo didn't write his email as a request for others to give him advice on how to become a better photographer.  That wasn't the point at all.  Massimo simply asked for clarification.  I think that should be respected.

Everyone has their own style of learning.  What might be a "beginner's" shot for one person, might be a step-up for someone else.  While perusing national magazines may be something that one person finds educational, it may not work for the next person.  An opinion is an opinion, but peppering that opinion with judgement and unsolicited advice is not the way to further polite conversation.

Yes, yes, this is my request for everyone to please just get along.  In the end, no one regrets the unpleasant things they did not say~

Sue, please weigh in so that we can put this behind us and move on to the next planned event~

Kathy



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