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Dinner Meeting

Hello Everyone,

Mark your calendar for the upcoming Dinner Meeting to be held on Sunday, February 23, 2014. The featured speaker for this evening is Justin Schieber who will be presenting "'On the God of the Apologists' - fawns, ferns, and epistemic incoherence."

The existence of suffering or evil has always been one of the biggest challenges to belief in Christian theism. In response to probabilistic versions of arguments from suffering, we are often told that God works in mysterious ways. Does this response provide a successful defeater to probabilistic versions of the Evidential Argument from Suffering?

Join Mr. Schieber as he argues that some new, powerful arguments from the philosophical literature have thrown a destructive monkey wrench into any theistic project which might employ the 'God is Mysterious' response.

About the speaker:

Justin Schieber was raised a believing Christian until his mid-teens when he was forced to take up intellectual arms as a good Christian soldier against his own growing doubts. He lost the battle. Now, Justin Schieber is co-host of the Reasonable Doubts Radio Show and Podcast ( and an active member of the Michigan chapter of CFI (Center for Inquiry).

Justin enjoys promoting a friendly, yet firm, skepticism toward religious claims. He has lectured on the philosophical arguments for and against the existence of God and has also participated in several philosophical public debates with Christian Apologists on the existence of God in the United States and Canada - most of which can be found online.

Dinner and Socializing will be from 5 to 6:15 PM.
Program will start at 6:30 PM.

Old Great Wall Restaurant (Private Banquet Room)
4832 W. Saginaw Hwy.
Lansing, Michigan 48917

Click on for interactive map. (Not to be confused with the World Buffet Restaurant on the same strip mall, located west of Mall Drive that runs N-S between the 2 restaurants)

Menu Options:

• Buffet $9.65 incl. tax (beverage extra except for hot tea)
• Order individual entrée from the menu

RSVP appreciated by email and/or on our Meetup website to provide an approximate headcount.

Jim Hong, Director
Mid-Michigan Atheists and Humanists
American Atheists Affiliate
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"An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes that deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated."
…….Madalyn Murray O’Hair

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  • Jim H.

    Justin made an excellent presentation on the question of belief, as he provided in-depth perspectives on both sides of the issue that were enlightening and thought provoking.

    February 25, 2014

  • Eva

    A well prepared presentation that generated lively discussion and many interesting Q&As.

    February 24, 2014

  • Steve B.

    Very deep presentation, still thinking about some of it. Nice conversations . . .

    February 24, 2014

  • dean r.

    Good presentation, lots to think about

    February 23, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    This should be really cool. Can't wait to hang with you guys!!

    February 23, 2014

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