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Dan Barker & Dinesh D'Souza "Can you be good without God?" Thu Jan 29 7:30


It is a reasonable question to ask: "Can we be good without God?" With the question asked, these two distinguished guests will argue for their answers. Dan Barker is the co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, former Christian pastor, and current atheist activist. Dinesh D'Souza is a leading public policy maker, author, and Christian. These two high caliber speakers will be debating for the second time (see YouTube link posted below, accompanied by each speaker's website links).

On a university campus we are given the opportunity to discover, experiment, and test things out. It's a time to pursue your passions and plan your future. It's also a time to evaluate your values, morals, and beliefs, both what they are, and why you hold them.

Campus Crusade for Christ (Cru), Campus Atheists, Skeptics, and Humanists (CASH), and Intervarsity (IV) are proud to bring people of differing views together for this impressive event, join us! It's free and open to everyone. So spread the word and bring your friends!

If you want to organize a pep rally at one of the local bars, coordinate with your fellow atheists on the event page on Meetup.

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  • Brad B.

    The format was a little weird, but it seemed to work out pretty well. More time would have been nice!

    January 30, 2009

  • Pete

    Great debate. Both made good points, but Dan's tended to be more authentic, based on facts, evidence and science. Dinesh's arguments had little to no evidence to back them up, or were based on false claims (the universe is rational?).

    I wish I had known it would be that crowded. I stood in the back for all of it. Next time I'll get there earlier.

    January 30, 2009

  • Grant S.

    The debate was thought provoking and enjoyable. Dan Barker's case was exceptional well made. The audience was engaged and entertained. It would be great if CASH and MSA could promote more of these debates on various topics. The debaters would not have to be as high profile as the two involved.

    January 30, 2009

  • justin c.

    It was excellent and it was completely packed. There were people sitting on the floor of the auditorium and in the isles. Good debate from both sides, it got my blood pumping a little and it was really amazing to watch someone say so confidently and clearly to a room full of young religious minds the things that Dan said. It's very encouraging to see these types of public events.

    January 29, 2009

  • Andy

    Dan Barker did a great job. D'Souza actually did say that people can be good without god. He later also said our source for morality is supernatural, but "it might not be god." Did anyone else catch him say this?

    D'Souza was a bit pompous and dismissive of the questions he didn't like. He had a few prearranged insults he used rather than directly addressing the questions. I thought it was a bit rude when his responded to the “first 98,000 years” question by saying that he was unimpressed, as if it were unworthy of someone of his stature.

    January 29, 2009

  • A former member
    A former member

    Mr. D'Souza twisted the question into something that was incompatible with Mr. Barker's answer. If "God" is the definition of "good" to people with religious beliefs, then of course you can't be "good" without God. However, if the "good" in the question is the general consensus of "good" held by the majority of humankind, then of course you can be good without God, which Mr. D'Souza admitted.

    January 29, 2009

  • Grant S.

    Get there early and enjoy two very articulate and intelligent individuals debate. Both are experienced at this activity and should present a challenging set of arguments.

    January 28, 2009

  • A former member
    A former member

    I would recommend getting there early. The turnout will be huge!

    January 26, 2009

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