Re: [MontanaCoders] important please read....

From: Ian M.
Sent on: Thursday, August 5, 2010 1:37 PM
Thanks Lance!

Nice to know the vision isn't too far off track.

Ian

On 8/5/2010 1:34 PM, Lance Fisher wrote:
> I like the MT Programmers group, and I think you guys are doing a
> great job running it.  One of the things that appeals to me is the
> fact that each meeting touches on varied technology.  I primarily deal
> with C#, JavaScript, HTML, CSS, and SQL Server - the "alt.net" MS
> stack.  I run the .NET Users Group in Missoula where we focus
> primarily on the MS technologies.  I really enjoy seeing and learning
> other platforms.  It helps me see the benefit other platforms have,
> and helps me improve my techniques in my own language.
>
> I'd like to keep the MT Programmers group just as it is - a gathering
> place for programmers with different backgrounds where you can learn
> from each other.  Mini-meets and tech-specific user groups can fill
> the need of platform-specific content.
>
> Lance
>
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Paul Morton<[address removed]>  wrote:
>    
>> And might I add, you do a great job Ian.  Montana is a better place because
>> of you.  No good deed can go unpunished, so hang in there.  You and the
>> other organizers are to be commended for your tenacity, foresight, and
>> graciousness in the face of criticism for work you do out of your own sense
>> of duty.
>>
>> God bless  you for starting and nurturing these meetings.
>>
>> Paul Morton | Applications Developer | Washington Business Services | 101
>> International Drive | Missoula, MT 59808 |[masked] |
>> [address removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [address removed]
>> [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Ian Merwin
>> Sent: Thursday, August 05,[masked]:53 PM
>> To: [address removed]
>> Subject: [MontanaCoders] important please read....
>>
>>
>>
>> I posted this on the discussion board:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> A member has sent me an email with a totally valid concern they have. The
>> concern is based on content of meetings/topics/etc.­
>>
>> I just wanted to let everyone know that we have had discussions on meeting
>> topics regularly. And, I felt it's probably time to take a moment and make a
>> statement -- to bring some facts to light of the complexity of the MTP
>> group.
>>
>> One of the challenges of having a successful group is the strength in
>> numbers concept. Unfortunately a 'tech group' in Montana is never going to
>> have strength in numbers if it limited to a specific focus -- say 'Ruby' or
>> 'PHP' or 'C#' -- there would be like 2 people at the meeting.
>> Seattle?Tacoma?Belle­vue, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area, with an estimated
>> population of 3,344,813 is well over 3 times the entire population of the
>> STATE of Montana. My guess is that they have some STRONG/Well attended .NET,
>> C#, VB, MSSQL (specific) meetings there. (Just as an example) Point being
>> you could probably get a Commodore 64 meeting with 50 members in Seattle...
>> and maybe 2 in the State of MT.
>>
>> Another challenge is keeping everyone satisfied with meeting content and
>> applicable content. We have always tried to keep the topics rolling and
>> changing so that at any given meeting - one can be satisfied learning
>> something new and somehow applicable - if for nothing else the exposure to
>> the technology.
>>
>> This is why we have monthly meetings and STRONGLY encourage feedback and
>> discussions as to topics / etc. This is, after all, your group. You decide.
>> AND, this is why we encourage 'mini-meets' in each area. As an example, we
>> have VERY successful DRUPAL meetings going on Missoula each and every month.
>> Andy Laken has done an awesome job heading that up.
>>
>> Finally, MTP is simply a gathering place. Fertile soil for seeds of
>> knowledge to be planted, watered, nurtured and to grow. It as good as all of
>> you make it. Our goal for the 'MAIN' meetings has always been the following:
>> 1) Have a time of food/drink/conversat­ion. This is to get to know others.
>> Maybe find others interests and how you can help them - or maybe who to
>> stand beside and listen to - to learn something.
>> 2) To get away from the 'cave' as many of us semi-affectionately call it. To
>> get out and see the light of day.
>> 3) To give someone in the group an opportunity to share on a topic that they
>> are passionate about - which 100% of the time there are others that are at
>> least interested in (at the minimum) being exposed to the topic.
>> 4) To provide a time to further the discussions, ask questions, change the
>> subject.. whatever.. again - relationship and knowledge building.
>>
>> Our goal for 'mini meets' has been to:
>> 1) Provide a more casual environment - for spontaneous discussions.
>> 2) Provide a time/place to gather again and talk about specific (and random)
>> issues.
>> 3) A time where Mentors can DIRECTLY mentor on whatever....
>> 4) A time where you can go and say "I need help with JQuery" or "anyone know
>> anything about..." for example....
>> 5) A time to further friendships, better ourselves, give/receive, and build
>> the tech community.
>>
>> So I have to ask your patience for the meetings when a topic doesn't pertain
>> - please don't give up on us. In addition to that I have to ask your
>> continued participation in the meetings - regardless of whether you like the
>> 'main topic' or not - you never know when/where you're going to learn - or
>> who you may be able to help. Even if the topic doesn't pertain every time -
>> the other 2/3 of the meeting should pertain as to meeting others, asking
>> questions, giving answers. It will be worth your time to suffer through the
>> presentation to be able to hang out and ask around to find others with
>> similar 'focus' -- then, maybe you can post mini-meets for that topic in
>> your area Like the Joomla and Drupal groups in Missoula.
>>
>> I'm here to promote tech/entrepreneur/bu­siness in Montana. I'm here to
>> increase all of our skill-sets and opportunities. My goal is to mentor and
>> be mentored and to build relationships. I will help you get a group started
>> wherever/whenever -- just ping me anytime. I think that realizing and
>> working within our parameters here in MT (with patience and grace) we can
>> build an effective tech community.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
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