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Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - You are not right. I am stopping to discuss freedom and government but prefer promote Epicurus philosophy, I am auditing history of philosophy at GMU. It is more healthy for atheists than any political dispute.  Woody L. Mar 15, 2014 10:04 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I see the discussion subject has changed from atheism to libertarianism.   That;s ok with me, but it would be better if the change would be explicit. Victor VG Mar 15, 2014 9:38 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Didn't really say anything  about guns at home. Frankly that's a personal choice, that again, I feel the goveernnment has no right to control.  The government uses guns to enforce its will (law).  My point was that they place so Dave S. Mar 15, 2014 9:35 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I prefer that government tell me what to do not watching Tv and advertising and following unconscious orders. You do not need guns at home if society is more less normal.  Keeping guns at your home is giving opportunity to kill first your Woody L. Mar 15, 2014 9:20 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Laws, ideally, weigh one person's "freedoms" against another. The law against murdering restricts what we can do to a person. However, that person nondescript Mar 15, 2014 9:19 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Making any law surrounding someone's personal choices is a restriction of freedom. Government or any societal compact can safely exist if it's purpose is to prevent people from violate other's human rights. (i.e., no killing bea Dave S. Mar 15, 2014 7:44 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Dave, freedom can be a very vague word and a proper meaning to the event should specified. Can we live completely free without government? In case of abortion government's law rather help peop Woody L. Mar 14, 2014 9:53 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Government Law is technically the opposite of freedom. On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Woody Lipinski < Dave S. Mar 14, 2014 8:58 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I am agree with you if I will substitute one word: " If we give your church or religion the ability Woody L. Mar 14, 2014 7:37 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - With my wife working for NAF, I hear more about abortion than anyone would ever care to.  Whether or not women can have abortions does not directly affect me, I won't be having any, any time soon.  Yet, I still take this fight very Grantt Mar 14, 2014 2:52 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - "So sure - recruit all the atheists anti-choicers and I'll keep explaining why that position is wrong. That's the way discussion and advocacy Woody L. Mar 13, 2014 10:11 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I fully agree with you and GC. I think we are clearly turning the corner on GLBTQ right Don W. Mar 13, 2014 9:51 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Yes, exactly. And yes, atheists are talking animals and we will argue; especially when we are hungry and/or overtired. This was fun. Look forward t William A. Mar 13, 2014 9:19 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - And David, thank you. Words are important and you use them well. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:52 PM, David Weintraub < Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 5:57 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick, thank you - again. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Rick Wingrove < [address removed] > wrote Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 5:55 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Somehow I doubt that the humans in this community who can become pregnant are willing to accept that whether "debates" about their basic humanity are acceptable can be left up to the whim of public opinion. The issue here, articul David W. Mar 13, 2014 5:52 PM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick W. Mar 13, 2014 5:47 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I wish we could just leave the question of abortion out of debate, but until anti-abortion arguments are agreed by the vast majority of atheists in our community and of citizens in our country to have the same merits as the flat-earth argumen Christopher John D. Mar 13, 2014 5:30 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick, Nate was kind enough to post the blog post where David responded. Some of us read that more closely than others (yeah, I would be the one that missed him saying the secular argument against abortion is bad) . It's good he clarifie Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 5:05 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Linda, I concur - I certainly wasn't "recruited" to atheism. I have Seth Andrews of "The Thinking Atheist" and my own iPho Glenn Mar 13, 2014 3:45 PM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick W. Mar 13, 2014 3:37 PM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick W. Mar 13, 2014 3:21 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Linda, I'm not saying he's supporting anti-choice. But without a framework, it's not a stretch to say it gives that appearance. It's being worked out in the comments, as you noted. Stephanie Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 1:29 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 13, 2014 1:23 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Atheists arguing with atheists...why? Because you are trying to fit a round rational thought peg into the limiting square hole jargon of irrational belief. Left, right, conservatism, liberal, "god" given rights, etc. These a William A. Mar 13, 2014 1:13 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 13, 2014 12:55 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - It's inconceivable to me that an issue in which one side is arguing that half of all human beings are entitled to an inferior class of civil rights could be unimportant to anyone. Conversation can only help, right? David W. Mar 13, 2014 12:54 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Linda, Definitely a lot of back and forth. Most atheists do align pro-choice, so I'd expect a lot of supportive comments. I almost said in my last email that we can turn this controversy over David's comments into Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 12:47 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 13, 2014 12:09 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 13, 2014 12:01 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Nick, It is not that we are "recruiting" people who espouse evil. What we are do Don W. Mar 13, 2014 11:51 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - body{font-size:10pt;font-famil­y:arial,sans-serif;background-­color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{m­argin:0px;} The more I think about it, the more peculiar the abor Nick H. Mar 13, 2014 11:35 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - no worries, at all. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Don Prange < [address removed] > wrote: Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 10:02 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Ref Woody's comment: I very much appreciate the efforts of anyone promoting the separation of church and state. Religious people, atheist, conservative, and liberal. I especially appreciate the efforts of Beltway and Stephanie R. Mar 13, 2014 9:59 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 13, 2014 9:27 AM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick W. Mar 13, 2014 8:38 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Don P. Mar 13, 2014 7:45 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Don P. Mar 13, 2014 7:41 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Amen. Nate G. Mar 12, 2014 10:21 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Ladies and Gentlemen, Woody L. Mar 12, 2014 9:42 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - He handled it. See Nate's comments. George <[address removed]> wrote: Stephanie, Stephanie R. Mar 12, 2014 9:29 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - body{font-size:10pt;font-famil­y:arial,sans-serif;background-­color:#ffffff;color:black;}p{m­argin:0px;} So then you also remember William F. Buckley, whose G Nick H. Mar 12, 2014 9:28 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Stephanie, Is that necessary? AA's agenda is specifically to support atheists. If he starts claiming that various atheists aren't worthy of being members because they have opposing views on other sub George Mar 12, 2014 9:26 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Lolz Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Stephanie Ragusky < raguskys@gmail Nate G. Mar 12, 2014 9:23 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Well hell, Nate. That's exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for coloring it red so I can see the words. Excellent. Time to get off the damn phone. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking with it. Stephanie R. Mar 12, 2014 9:22 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Stephanie This is Silverman's second paragraph in his reply on the blog: "I said that Nate G. Mar 12, 2014 9:14 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 12, 2014 9:07 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - This dialogue has got me all fired up. The main thing I want to say is that party labels are very limiting, and make it difficult to see things as they actually are, and even more difficult to see the limits o William A. Mar 12, 2014 9:00 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - There's also a secular argument against right to die and and gay sex (both are bad, but they exist). David's original comment ignores that, and puts those tw Stephanie R. Mar 12, 2014 8:29 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - That blog comment is so much BS. Who is Silverman to redefine conservatism? Which has had its religious associations since Burke supposedly invented it. Economic conservatism used to be called liberalism, hence its present-day synonym "classical liberalis Nick H. Mar 12, 2014 7:59 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available George Mar 12, 2014 7:43 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Sure, as long as they are attributed. Eric Herrman On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Don Wharton < nondescript Mar 12, 2014 6:48 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 12, 2014 6:24 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Linda, I have been dealing with a generic category of anti-atheist bigotry within WASH. Don W. Mar 12, 2014 6:09 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 12, 2014 5:20 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - He only said there was a secular argument against abortion Jeffrey J. Mar 12, 2014 5:00 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - "Some of my best friends are conservative"  :-) Victor On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Ellen Wingrove < VG Mar 12, 2014 4:50 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - He's not anti-choice. I think he was mis-quoted. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Stephanie Ragusky < Ellen W. Mar 12, 2014 4:13 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - We were there supporting American Atheists. Our position, as stated to attendees, is that the Republican Party is NOT conservative, but has been taken over by the religious right (as has the leadership of CPAC). The religious right is Ellen W. Mar 12, 2014 4:10 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I think David was trying to stick a wedge between social and fiscal conservatives. Really, social conservatives, aka the Religious Right, are not r nondescript Mar 12, 2014 1:35 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - What I think that is going on is that David is saying what conservatives like to hear ("I support the military", "I am fiscally conservative") yet because of politics, conservatives have been hypocrite. Christopher John D. Mar 12, 2014 11:40 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Linda, http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201­4/03/07/david-silverman-cpac-i­s-crawling-with-closet-atheist­s/ Stephanie R. Mar 12, 2014 11:19 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Preview not available Linda Mar 12, 2014 11:10 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - I did find Silverman's recent comments disappointing. Particularly the timing of them. I have NO problem with NOVA tabling. Thank you Rick Lori P. Mar 12, 2014 11:04 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Thank you, Mr. Wingrove. Stephanie Ragusky On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Rick Wingrove < Stephanie R. Mar 12, 2014 10:49 AM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Rick W. Mar 12, 2014 10:44 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Tabling at CPAC - Hello Don, I cannot speak for what NOVA Atheists stands for, but what I do know is that among atheists in general and NOVA Atheists in particular, there are atheists who are conservative. What I also know is that CPAC does Christopher John D. Mar 12, 2014 4:05 AM
Tabling at CPAC - Hi Friends, Don W. Mar 12, 2014 1:54 AM
Meetup details changed: March Book Club - The March Book Club time and date have changed. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/NOVA-Ath­eists/events/168432612/ Katrina Mar 10, 2014 12:32 PM
Due to Weather - CPAC Tabling cancelled for today. - Due to a winter weather advisory, today's tabling at CPAC is cancelled. Tabling is still on for tomorrow. Weather is expected to be near 60 deg. and sunny. Come join us on Saturday! Rick Rick W. Mar 7, 2014 6:34 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] March Book Club Nominations - Hi Katrina,  We had good discussions yesterday, and the subject of free will came up again. There was a lot of interest in reading Sam Harris' book "Free Will", followed by many of the essays that have come Sean B. Feb 24, 2014 9:59 AM
March Book Club Nominations - Hi everyone, We currently have two nominations for our March Book Club selection. If you would like to nominate a book, please do so by 1) responding to me directly or 2) posting your nomination on our Shelfari site (http://www.shelfari.com/group­s/432 Katrina Feb 23, 2014 9:14 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Gender and Catholic Church in Poland - I saw that, Woody, and almost sent to you! Gloria On Monday, January 27, 2014, Woody Lipinski < [address removed] > wrote: Gloria C. Jan 27, 2014 9:17 PM
Gender and Catholic Church in Poland - http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01­/27/opinion/ Woody L. Jan 27, 2014 8:55 PM
February Book Club Choice - Good afternoon, I've created a poll for those interested to vote for the February NOVA Atheists Book Club selection. The choices are as follows: 1. "The Selfish Gene" by Richard Dawkins 2. "God is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything" b Katrina Jan 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Meetup Cancelled: Get together at the Lakeside - Get together at the Lakeside, scheduled to occur on Thursday, January 23,[masked]:00 PM has been cancelled. Please update your plans accordingly. Since no one has signed up for this meetup, I shall cancel it and do something interesting. Cheers Gloria C. Jan 22, 2014 7:48 PM
Reminder: Meetup at Travinia on Thursday, January 9th - Hey all you members old and new!  Don't forget, we have a meetup scheduled at Travinia in Leesburg for Thursday, January 9th.  What better way to start off the new year than hanging out with other godless heathens?  Hope to see you all there!! Alysen Jan 4, 2014 11:46 AM
Thursday Lakeside Bungalow Meetup - I have canceled this meetup, since it is right between two major holidays and even I will not be able to attend. Happy Axial Tilt to all and see you all next year. Gloria Gloria C. Dec 22, 2013 11:13 PM
Court House Lawn Tabling Event Cancelled Due to Weather - OK, kids, I'm calling it. Tomorrows tabling on the Loudoun County Court House lawn is cancelled due to inclement weather. It will be snow early, turning to mixed precip by PM and tapering off. High temp will be 36-38 deg F so freezing and icy streets s Rick W. Dec 13, 2013 10:35 AM
Weather Update - It looks like there may be some snow or mixed precipitation early in the day on Saturday, but it doesn't look like much and it should be ending by the afternoon. High will be above freezing, so probably the streets will be mostly clear.  This wil Rick W. Dec 12, 2013 1:43 PM
Fwd: FIRST my Appeal and Time To Register NEXT SSS Calendar for Dec 9 - 16, 2013 - Preview not available Woody L. Dec 11, 2013 12:20 PM
Meetup Cancelled: Get together at the Lakeside - Get together at the Lakeside, scheduled to occur on Thursday, December 5,[masked]:00 PM has been cancelled. Please update your plans accordingly. If you have further questions, you can email me through the Gloria C. Dec 5, 2013 4:47 PM
FESTIVUS 7 is Almost Here! - Festivus 7 is just 9 days out! Please RSVP as soon as possible so we can plan for food and drink. If you RSVP'd but didn't pay yet, please pay as soon as possible or email me to let me know you'll pay at the door. Like last year, the price is $25 for r Rick W. Dec 5, 2013 1:44 PM
Tonight's Lakeside meetup - Hello Everyone, I am the only one signed up for the Sterling meetup tonight. Is anyone else going? At all? Please let me know. Thanks. Gloria Gloria C. Dec 5, 2013 9:58 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - Ellen I'm planning to go, count me. Too busy to RSVP. I will. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Ellen Wing Nate G. Dec 5, 2013 1:15 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - Thanks...thinking I need to place the order in another week. What do we need for paper supplies, cups, etc. I'll pick those up with the shrimp trays from Costco On Dec 3,[masked]:50 PM, "Ellen Wingrove&qu Stephanie R. Dec 3, 2013 8:55 PM
Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - Festivus 7 is less than 2 weeks away! Please RSVP so we know you are coming and can plan food and drink. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.m Ellen W. Dec 3, 2013 8:49 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] FYI: Dennett-LaScola book on non-believing clergy - Preview not available John S. Nov 30, 2013 6:24 PM
RE: [NOVA-Atheists] FYI: Dennett-LaScola book on non-believing clergy - Preview not available Bob B. Nov 30, 2013 2:32 PM
FYI: Dennett-LaScola book on non-believing clergy - Linda Nov 30, 2013 12:18 PM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - I won't know if I can make it until sometime next week. On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Mmewsic < Mm Nick H. Nov 27, 2013 10:54 AM
Re: [NOVA-Atheists] Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - Mmewsic Nov 24, 2013 8:12 PM
January Book Club voting - Good evening! We've decided to skip a book club meeting for December.  We will hold our next meeting on Sunday, January 26, 2014. There are three choices for the January book.  Please use th Katrina Nov 24, 2013 7:18 PM
Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/NOVA-Ath­eists/events/149722672/ When : Saturday, December 14 Ellen W. Nov 23, 2013 3:16 PM
Meetup details changed: FESTIVUS 7!!!!!!!!!! - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/NOVA-Ath­eists/events/149722672/ When : Saturday, December 14 Ellen W. Nov 18, 2013 7:37 PM
Festivus 7 - Hey Everyone! It's time for Festivus! This year, our 7th Festivus will be held on Saturday, December 14th, from 6:00 PM until the cops come. I will be posing the announcement in the next couple of days but I wanted to give everyone a heads up s Rick W. Nov 5, 2013 5:40 PM
November book club choice - Hi everyone! We have three choices for the November book club: "God's Funeral" by A.N. Wilson "The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution" by S Katrina Oct 21, 2013 5:15 PM
Fwd: [atheists-27] Group Membership - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Woody Lipinski < [address removed] > Date: Woody L. Oct 18, 2013 1:00 PM
Meetup Cancelled: Tabling @Values Voters Summit - Saturday Oct. 12 - Tabling @Values Voters Summit - Saturday Oct. 12, scheduled to occur on Saturday, October 12,[masked]:00 AM has been cancelled due to inclement weather. Please update your plans accordingly. If you have further questions, you can email me throug Ellen W. Oct 11, 2013 9:04 AM
Meetup details changed: Watch Road to Reason: A Skeptic's Guide to the 21st Century - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://www.meetup.com/NOVA-Ath­eists/events/143761672/ When : Sunday, October 6, 20 Larry Oct 3, 2013 10:56 PM

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