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Fracking - Have Your Say

This Wednesday, April 3rd at 5 pm, Gov. Cuomo is coming to the Doubletree Hotel in Tarrytown. The subject is fracking which does have a potential impact on one of our favorite areas.  (The Catskills.)

Come out and let your opinion been known.

Note:  I am not hosting this event

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  • Steven Z

    Eric and DavidB.,
    I see that you don't take emails from others in the group so you may or may not see this. But this may begin to clarify some of the questions you raised in regards to your support for of fracking. You claimed that the local people in the areas where the oil and gas companies propose fracking want fracking. Maybe not.
    http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/towns-across-us-make-their-cases-against-fracking/

    They and I do not believe safe fracking has been well established and documented. I don't think this "net gain for the environment" stuff means much to them and the likely damage to their health and quality of life. And last I heard there was religious freedom in this country for all, including environmentalists, despite what the right wing "values" folks would like.

    July 2, 2014

    • Eric

      I like the NY court decision. Now the communities that want fracking can have it and those who don't want it won't have it. I mean if the elected representatives of the people in the Town of Smithville unanimously vote for fracking, and those representatives of the people are overwhelmingly reelected by the citizens of Smithville, surely you would not want to impose your personal view on them, would you?

      July 2, 2014

    • Steven Z

      It's not my personal view that I would like to impose, and a close majority vote would make me uneasy. If the areas do not threaten the reservoir system that supplies other areas in the state, and if the energy companies are open about their processes and willingly responsible for problems that happen after they affect the environment, then let them cautiously proceed. The profits for the relative few do not outweigh the potential damage which extremely costly and time consuming. The energy companies generally do not want to own up to their role in these problems, because they do not want to recognize the true cost of their business operations.

      1 · July 2, 2014

  • Steven Z

    Simply put none of the energy companies have demonstrated that fracking can be done without damaging our health and environment. It's a blight on the land wherever it's been done, has damaged the quality of life, the health of people and animals and puts at risk invaluable water and land resources. And while these unscrupulous corporate energy companies keep secrets and deny the costly and dangerous impacts (using the tobacco industry as their role models) they use their money and power and any deceptive means available to reach their short sighted objectives. But unless people show up to support these arguments and call their representatives regularly industrial greed, lobbyists and campaign contributions are likely to win out. Governor Cuomo needs this support to stand up to these pressures.

    As others have mentioned, from what I see on the internet as well, the date is Thursday, April 3rd.

    March 30, 2014

    • Steven Z

      It's because of all the money being waved in their faces. It seems that you trust the energy corporations to be good socially responsible entities. Or you like the go now and ask questions later approach that Texas and others favor. I just think you should look here and take your blinders off. Examples of this behavior are simply unending and that behavior would endanger our natural resources for the sake of short term gains for some.

      April 19, 2014

    • Steven Z

      Here's where I'd like you to look http://www.npr.org/20...­

      April 19, 2014

  • Jeff

    I can't make it, but I'd like to chime in here. Bottom line: Fracking has the potential of DESTROYING our water supply. Even the oil/gas industry's own research shows a 5% average failure rate of the cement well linings. Incredibly and by federal law, they're not even require to state what hellacious chemical cocktails they use in these wells. Lastly, unlike traditional drilling methods, fracking requires hundreds of wells concentrated in a relatively small area, so a 5% failure rate is nothing short of HUGE!!! The formidable resources and political power of big oil & gas make this a daunting battle. I fear it'll take a great many local/regional catastrophes for people to see the pending apocalyptic consequences of fracking. Hail fossil fuels - energy independence, jobs... blah, blah, blah.... and all for a SMALL price - our health, our lives and our future.

    1 · March 29, 2014

    • Eric

      So why do the people in the southern tier keep voting for pro-fracking politicians? What do you know that they don't?

      April 3, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Bravo, Steve. We must keep fracking out of NYS...there are really serious environmental and public health consequences to fracking and we don't need it! Thee are much better solutions to our energy needs. I will be out of town, but I have written Gov. Cuomo more than once to express my views on this issue.

    1 · March 29, 2014

    • Eric

      You don't want fracking and Cuomo wants to close Indian Point (up to 25% of our power). NOBODY wants windmills in their neighborhoods because they destroy property values. Solar in cloudy upstate New York? Don't think so. It's easy for you to say there are better solutions. But there aren't. And please don't tell me better mass transit, higher gas taxes, and carpooling are the solutions. I guess we could build some new coal plants like Germany who forgot that something had to replace their nukes.

      April 3, 2014

  • Steven Z

    Grant, have you seen the movies Gasland and Gasland II. If you have and still have your point of view, then we just see things differently. If you haven't, I suggest you do. I'm guessing you may not have since you ask me to explain Dick Cheney's role in this issue. I don't think that hopeful technology provides a justifiable basis for your position. I allow you that hope, but many including me believe that before they allow fracking in NY, let the industry demonstrate that they can do it in a way that is safe to our health, our environment, our natural resources and quality of life. To the contrary, all over the country they have shown that they damage those things and make their profits, don't admit to that damage, and refuse to disclose their techniques and the toxins that they use in their processes, and are unwilling to pay for the costs of that damage.

    April 2, 2014

    • Eric

      Gasland has been debunked up and down and in and out. And provide evidence that Cheney has a financial interest in New York natural gas (like Al Gore has in alternative energy).

      April 3, 2014

  • David B.

    Oh, I hate to start "flaming" on a hiking meet-up group site, but I may just have to go as part of the loyal opposition here to the modern day "Luddite impersonators" of the NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) and BANANA (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody) ilk. Although opposition is well intentioned, it is relying on incomplete and old information served up with an anti-corporate bias . Fracking performed with proper oversight and engineering controls, will be a net positive for the environment. The resulting production of natural gas will drive down the need for "dirty" coal generated power with added benefit of drastically altering our national balance of trade. The technology now is advanced enough to produce the natural gas safety. However, with that said, I do agree with the concept of "trust, but verify."

    April 3, 2014

    • Eric

      Well said. But environmentalism has become a religion, and natural gas is the anti-Christ. There are people who actually think we can power our current economy and households (plus 150 million electric cars plugged in every night) with wind and solar and limited hydro. Nat gas - evil; coal - evil; nuclear power - evil. Oil - evil.

      April 3, 2014

  • Margie

    ps.. if investors see the protest on wall street they will pull their money out because they know their stock will go down due to at the very least negative press.. they pull out so fast and you'll crumble their incentive making the fracking companies furious.. you'll dismantle them at their source.. geez. I hope nobody comes after me.. lol

    April 3, 2014

  • Margie

    If you want to have a protest get a hold of the propaganga that is being sent around to investors, investors that are from this country and others that are investing from other countries. Some of these investors don't know the truth and are believing hype and others don't care..once you know this.. where to protest is on WALL STREET where the money and power is coming from. Go to the source of the Gov. pressure where he is getting the pressure from. The call the press and have the world see the protest on wall street.. then you might have a chance.. good luck

    April 3, 2014

  • Steve

    Just to update -this is not a public forum as I was originally lead to believe. This is a fundraiser for Gov Cuomo and there is a planned protest outside the hotel against fracking. Since people are protesting, one has to assume that there will be also be a pro fracking group there as well.

    April 2, 2014

  • Steven Z

    Well Grant I guess you like the short term perspective on things without worrying about the costs to our environment, health and natural resources. I'm not a scientist, but the deceptive practices of the energy industry are more than well documented. There's are reason they had clean water and other exemptions put into the energy legislation written by them largely by themselves under the guidance of Dick Cheney along with the influence of their campaign money. If you'd like to trust and believe in them then that's your right. (The only parallel I was drawing between tobacco and energy are their deceptive practices for profit at the cost of our health.)

    April 1, 2014

  • Marion

    I think I can be there by 6 or so

    March 31, 2014

  • Steve

    Date moved to 4/3.

    March 30, 2014

  • Pat

    Facebook says its a rally to demonstrate at a fundraiser of his on Thursday 4/3

    March 30, 2014

  • Nancy

    Are you sure it's on Wednesday, on the internet it says Thursday at 5

    March 30, 2014

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