On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:59 PM, David Michael <[address removed]>
I agree, list members do not like to be spammed with unwanted messages. The NYC.rb list on Yahoo did not seem to get that much spam unless you consider a flood of job postings as spam. Perhaps also I do not have as much visibility into the spamminess of the list as the organizers might have.
The way that Yahoo worked was that you only had to moderate the first message from a member, at that point all additional messages would go through without moderation. Unfortunately meetup does not support this style of moderation and you're forced with an all or nothing decision as an organizer.
That said, lists where membership is moderated but their messages are not can be somewhat self-policing. If a member is sending spam, then is it possible to just ban the member or warn them of their behavior? This would seem (naively) to be easier on an organizer than policing every message that hits the list.
Again the problem is with the software. I can't find anyway to ban someone from sending crap (or job postings which violate our rules) without turning the meetup group into a private group.
My concern has more to do with the free flowing of ideas between like-minded and self-selecting individuals who have come to a place to get in contact with one another. Moderation of the message, and not just the member, is more than just an inconvenience of message timing - it also opens the possibility for discussions or opinions to be suppressed or culled from the list. I know, I know, this is incredibly paranoid but the idea of message moderation where one individual reads it and decides whether or not it should be allowed is really a bummer. I just don't like the spirit of it.
The only things that are moderated are job postings which don't meet the groups criteria and spam. All other messages are allowed through as quickly as I can get to them.
With all that said if people find a nyc.rb mailing list useful we could compliment the meetup site with a basic google group.
Thanks for the clarification Josh.
I hope I did not imply that the organizers of this group were facists or something - I kind of implicitly knew that all the messages were going through. It definitely seems like a pain for the organizer.
It also seems then I must take issue with the software implementation of Meetup and whose needs it is supposed to fulfill.