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Re: [NYC-rb] Re: a RoR class for developers @ GA in January

From: N. Richard S.
Sent on: Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:34 PM
IMHO the only thing that was obnoxious was the way that people treated
a guy who was trying to earn a living.

You don't think it's worth it?  Fine.  Don't buy it.  I sell/support
software for a living and we charge a huge amount of money for our
software.  Huge.  We also have a huge customer base too.  Apparently,
"a huge amount of money" is all relative.  Some people have problems
our software will solve.  Money is not a problem for these people.

I think the golden rule applies here: do unto others blah blah blah.
Ask yourself how you would feel is someone asked you to write an app
for them and then complained that YOUR price was markedly different
from the price of apps in say...the Apple App Store.  Wouldn't you be
rightly offended that someone was asking for your service but
unwilling to pay what you deemed to be a reasonable fee?  How would
you feel if someone outright insulted you to your face?  How about on
a public mailing list in front of their other potential customers?

I'm reminded of a Craigslist post for a web app job where someone is
basically asking for a clone of Overstock.com but only willing to pay
"in equity shares." LOL.

Don't like it?  Don't pay it.  Always be polite.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Kfir Shay <[address removed]> wrote:
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> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Larry Kluger <[address removed]> wrote:
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>> Apparently Akshay won't pay $2800 for a training class. That's fine. But
>> many will. I'm not one of them since I have an engineering degree and feel
>> that a big part of my professional skills is the ability to learn new
>> technologies quickly from books, code, the web, etc.
>>
>
> Sorry if you are part of the rails community you would be aware that an
> engineering degree means very little.
>
>>
>> I also know that good teachers tend to be undervalued.  People­ who are not
>> good teachers have no concept what it means to be a good one, even though
>> everyone is a "teacher" on occasion.
>>
>> In a similar vein, my wife is a book author, and a professional
>> journalist. She writes for Nature, Scientific American Mind, Nat Geo and
>> other pubs. I have written published articles too. But Josie's writing is
>> superior to mine and to most other people's who are not authors and
>> journalists. Even though we all do plenty of writing.
>>
>> My point: don't throw stones, we all live in glass houses.
>>
>> Many people only do well with an auditory style of learning. They need a
>> human teacher. (Google for "learning styles auditory visual kinesthetic"  to
>> learn more.) Others want the teacher/student interaction. They'll­ appreciate
>> the class. If they don't like the pricing they'll find a different class.
>
>
> Of course people learn in different ways the issue was never about doing or
> not doing a course about rails the issue at least for me was pricing.
>
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>> I like capitalism. If the class succeeds then it was a good idea,
>> including the pricing. I wish the teachers good success on their venture.
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>
> I like capitalism as well, imho the responses to this post is capitalism way
> to say that charging $2800 per person for an introductory rails class is
> nothing short of obnoxious.
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