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INTO WINE - Book signing event by Olivier Magny - Hello Everyone, Olivier Magny who is also a member of group will be signing his new book INTO WINE in NYC at the following dates: - Tuesday, May 7th - 5.30PM to 7.30PM - Flat Iron Wines & Spirits - 929 Broadway, New Dilek Caner M. May 6, 2013 11:37 AM
Master of Wine Dissertation - your input - Hello Everybody, As some of you may know, I am working on the last stages of my Master of wine dissertation.  At the moment, there are 297 Masters of Wine in the world, including only 30 in the US.  I am very excited Dilek Caner M. Feb 19, 2013 2:37 PM
Invitation to connect on LinkedIn - Shoshana F. Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM
Full Bodied Reds Tasting - 20 Wines - Hello Everybody, As some of you may know, we have the Full Bodied Reds Tasting coming up in December. I need to give a tentative number of tasters to the venue so if you are planning to come please make sure to go to our website and sign up. Dilek Caner M. Nov 15, 2010 4:47 PM
Full Bodied Reds Tasting - 20 Wines - Hi Everyone, I've just posted a new tasting of Full-Bodied Reds at Bacchus Wine Store for December 15th. Please look at our event page to see all the details. Cheers, Dilek Dilek Caner M. Nov 1, 2010 5:13 PM
Waiting List for Wine 101 Class this Friday - Hello Everyone, I am starting to move people up from the waiting list to the actual list for this event. Everybody who is on the actual list need to pay for the event on our website in order to stay on the actual list. If somebody moves up fr Dilek Caner M. Oct 24, 2010 12:48 PM
Our group has been offered a discount for a German Wine Event at Vintage Irving - This is a little bit of a short notice but our members can get a discount for a German Wine Event at Vintage Irving on October 25. The event sells for $100 but if you'd like to go, you can get discounted tickets by entering the code "nycwi Dilek Caner M. Oct 22, 2010 2:14 PM
Great food website by one of our group members - Hello Everyone, I wanted to let you know that Cynthia, one of our group members, co-founded this new website and there are very interesting interviews with some of the top chefs. They also feature a comprehensive food events calendar. I reall Dilek Caner M. Oct 13, 2010 1:23 PM
Wine 101 Class for NYC Wine Club - Hello Everyone, I've set up a Wine 101 Class with one of my favorite sommeliers in the city. Please go to our group site to see the details. Cheers, Dilek Dilek Caner M. Oct 6, 2010 1:56 PM
Location and Date for the German Riesling Dinner with Terry Theise - A few important details about the Bussaco Dinner: Date: Thursday, July 15 Location: bussaco restaurant, 833 Union St, Brooklyn, New York 11215 The original email is attached below: Hello Everyone, I wanted Dilek Caner M. Jul 11, 2010 3:38 PM
German Riesling Wine Dinner with Terry Theise - Hello Everyone, I wanted to let you know about a great event that is taking place at Bussaco Restaurant, the restaurant we featured at our last Meetup with the group. Terry Theise, one of wine industry's favorite importers is having Dilek Caner M. Jul 11, 2010 3:19 PM
New Meetup: Valpolicella Ripasso - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine Club! What: Valpolicella Ripasso When: Wednesday, May 5,[masked]:00 PM Where: Next to International House 175 Claremont Ave Suite 42 New York, NY 10027 Hi Guys Deanna Apr 20, 2010 3:57 PM
Dinner with Master Sommelier Scott Carney - Hello Everyone, I am very happy to announce a great event with Master Sommelier Scott Carney. Scott will host a dinner for us where he pairs the delicious dishes of Bussaco Restaurant with the wines he chooses. He is one of the most knowledge Dilek Caner M. Mar 23, 2010 2:32 PM
New Event: Amarone Tasting - When: Wednesday, March 10,[masked]:00 PM Where: Next to International House (Morningside Heights) 175 Claremont Ave, Suite 42 at La Salle street (apx 123rd st) just west of Broadway New York, NY 10027 Hi Guys. Deanna Feb 26, 2010 10:41 AM
Please disregard last email regarding programmers etc. - My account was hacked and that message was not from me. Dilek Dilek Caner M. Jan 26, 2010 10:29 AM
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New Meetup: Walla Walla Tasting at City Winery - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine Club! What: Walla Walla Tasting at City Winery When: Tuesday, February 2,[masked]:30 PM Where: City Winery 155 Varick Street Btwn: Vandam and Spring Streets New York, NY 1 Dilek Caner M. Jan 25, 2010 1:44 PM
New Meetup: Holiday Champagne Tasting - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine Club! What: Holiday Champagne Tasting When: December 17,[masked]:00 PM Where: Next to International House (Morningside Heights) 175 Claremont Ave, Suite 42 at La Salle street ( Deanna Dec 13, 2009 1:14 AM
Wine and a Movie This Saturday - Hello Everyone, We have a joint event with the Foreign Film Club coming up this Saturday. I have chosen some wines that show very good value in their styles, and Nestor, the organizer of the Foreign Film Club chose the movie. This is a great Dilek Caner M. Nov 16, 2009 4:15 PM
Blind Tastings and Workshops - Hello Everyone, I have scheduled several blind tastings and two workshops for November. Please visit the calendar to see the dates and themes. Cheers, Dilek Dilek Caner M. Oct 28, 2009 4:52 PM
Seminar and Tasting With Winemaker Antonio Bravo of Emiliana Winery - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Seminar With Winemaker Antonio Bravo of Emiliana Winery When: October 24,[masked]:00 AM Price: $35.00 per person Where: Tasting World 307 West 38th Stre Dilek Caner M. Oct 19, 2009 10:06 PM
New Meetup: Tasting and Seminar with Chilean Winemaker Marcelo Papa - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Tasting and Seminar with Chilean Winemaker Marcelo Papa When: September 24,[masked]:00 PM Price: $35.00 per person Where: Tasting World 307 West 38th Str Dilek Caner M. Sep 16, 2009 7:57 PM
Pol Roger Champagne Tasting - NYC Wine Club has been offered discount tickets ($40 instead of $45) for a Champagne event featuring Pol Roger Champagnes. This is not one of our regular group events but I wanted to post it to the group as it seems like it will be a fun event. T Dilek Caner M. Sep 11, 2009 2:09 PM
Possible Winemaker Event - Please vote - Hello Everyone, We have the opportunity to have a winemaker event on Thursday, September 24th, but Marcelo Papa, the Chilean winemaker who would lead the tasting can only make it at 6pm. Before I schedule this event, I would like to have your Dilek Caner M. Sep 11, 2009 10:28 AM
Last Minute White Wines Blind Tasting This Evening - Hello All, I have 6 spots for a blind tasting for white wines for this evening at 6:45pm at 307 West 38th St. Suite 1910. There is no charge but you would need to bring a bottle of white wine that costs about $25 to be tasted with the rest of Dilek Caner M. Jul 20, 2009 1:17 PM
Bordeaux Tasting Date Changed - Pls read - Hello Everyone, Unfortunately I had to change the date of Bordeaux Communes tasting to Wednesday July 22 (instead of Tuesday July 21). Josh, Helen, Tara, Dan and Sid, you have already confirmed with me about the new date. Dilek Caner M. Jul 17, 2009 7:27 PM
Pls read if you are planning to attend one of NYC Wine Club's Blind Tastings - Hello Everyone, Thanks for the enthusiastic response, the blind tastings were filled within one day of posting them and there were a few members sending me emails, asking me to create an extra spot for them. Please note that there are no more Dilek Caner M. Jul 14, 2009 11:37 AM
Blind Tasting Series in July - Hello Everyone, I have just scheduled a bunch of blind tastings on our group website. You can click on the links below to find out about more details. In a way July is a very special month that I can offer Tasting World's space for so many bl Dilek Caner M. Jun 29, 2009 4:09 PM
Spanish vs. Italian Whites - Educational Tasting - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Spanish vs. Italian Whites When: May 14,[masked]:30 PM Price: $25.00 per person Hello Everyone, I have scheduled a tasting of Spanish vs. Italian whites Dilek Caner M. May 11, 2009 9:03 PM
Blind Tasting #3 - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Blind Tasting #3 When: April 24,[masked]:30 PM Price: $5.00 per person Where: Tasting World I am scheduling a blind tasting for tomorrow evening. Pl Dilek Caner M. Apr 23, 2009 8:47 PM
Tomorrow's Wine Industry Jobs Seminar - Hello Everyone, I have cleared all unpaid 'Yes' RSVPs for tomorrow's event and at this point there are a few spots left. If you'd like to join the event please prepay when you RSVP. You can find the description of the event at: Dilek Caner M. Apr 19, 2009 7:12 PM
New Meetup: Wine Industry Jobs Seminar with Nicholas Solga, Banfi Vintners - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Wine Industry Jobs Seminar with Nicholas Solga, Banfi Vintners When: April 27,[masked]:30 PM Price: $30.00 per person Where: Tasting World This month, w Dilek Caner M. Apr 13, 2009 1:33 PM
New Meetup: Blind Tasting #2 - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Blind Tasting #2 When: April 3,[masked]:30 PM Price: $5.00 per person Where: Tasting World. Click the link below to see the exact address. Hello Everyo Dilek Caner M. Apr 1, 2009 3:31 PM
Spanish Wines & Tapas Grand Tasting - Hello Everyone, I'd like to remind you that our Spanish Wines & Tapas Tasting is coming up on March 26th. We will be tasting 50+ Spanish Wines served with Tapas and we are Dilek Caner M. Mar 21, 2009 12:13 AM
Austrian and Italian Winemaker Events Tuesday and Wednesday - Dear All, Here are the confirmed registrations for this week's winemaker events. There are still a few spots for both events and if you'd like to join either, go on our website, join the waiting list and send your payment through the PayPal li Dilek Caner M. Mar 9, 2009 3:12 PM
Upcoming Events at NYC Wine Club - Hello Everyone! Thank you for the great response to the Austrian Winemaker Tasting. I have also put up another winemaker tasting for March 10th, this time from Italy. I am sure people will be wondering why we're doing two winemaker tastings i Dilek Caner M. Feb 19, 2009 4:35 PM
Meet and Taste Wine with Three Austrian Winemakers - Hello Everyone, From many members' profiles I see that there are quite a few people who would like to learn about wine. In order to accommodate these people who really want to learn and who want to have a good time while learning, I've pu Dilek Caner M. Feb 18, 2009 6:18 PM
New Meetup: Blind Tasting #1 - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Blind Tasting #1 When: February 10,[masked]:30 PM Price: $5.00 per person Where: Click the link below to find out! Meetup Description: OK, it seems lik Dilek Caner M. Feb 5, 2009 11:48 AM
Poll on Blind Tastings - Please Vote - If there is enough interest, I am contemplating organizing a few blind tastings in the following format: 1. Everyone will bring a bottle of wine concealed in a brown bag 2. We will sit down and taste each one as a group, 5 minutes a wine, Dilek Caner M. Feb 5, 2009 10:51 AM
New Meetup: Wine Industry Jobs Seminar with Jean-Luc Lametrie - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Wine Industry Jobs Seminar with Jean-Luc Lametrie When: February 23,[masked]:30 PM Price: $25.00 per person Where: Click the link below to find out! Mee Dilek Caner M. Feb 4, 2009 11:13 AM
New Meetup: 50 Spanish Wines & a Variety of Spanish Cheeses - When: February 19,[masked]:30 PM Where: Estonian House 243 East 34th Street (Between 2nd & 3rd) New York, NY[masked] Price: $65.00 per person RSVP limit: 150 "Yes" RSVPs A Dilek Caner M. Dec 30, 2008 4:39 PM
Wine 101 Tomorrow - two spots - Dear All, There are two spots for Wine 101 class tomorrow. I have only 6 spots in total available for the group at the discounted rate. The class in total already has about 17 people. If interested, please sign up on our website a Dilek Caner M. Nov 21, 2008 11:05 AM
Wines that won our contest last Friday - Hello Everyone, The winner of Friday's BYOB tasting was: Allegrini Palazzo della Torre 2004 Italy (It was a Veronese IGT) I looked it up online, it goes for about $20 at Sherry-Lehmann, and $14.97 at PJ Wines (if you don't Dilek Caner M. Nov 18, 2008 11:32 AM
Wine 101 This Saturday and Nov 22nd - Hello Everyone, There are still 3 spots available for this Saturday's Wine 101. Please note that there is a real discount on this class. It does sell at $75 on Tasting World's website at: Dilek Caner M. Nov 13, 2008 1:36 PM
Wine 101 on Saturdays - Discounted Rate for our Group - Hello Everyone, This year I will not be able to hold an exclusive Wine 101 class for our group so I decided to offer a small number of discounted seats at an existing Wine 101 class for our members. I've posted three dates: On Nov 8t Dilek Caner M. Nov 3, 2008 11:52 AM
New Meetup: Bring a Bottle and Rate Your Favorites - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Bring a Bottle and Rate Your Favorites When: November 14,[masked]:00 PM Price: $15.00 per person Where: Click the link below to find out! Meetup Descrip Dilek Caner M. Oct 27, 2008 12:27 PM
New Meetup: Young Lions of Wine - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Young Lions of Wine When: October 29,[masked]:00 PM Where: Click the link below to find out! Meetup Description: It is my great pleasure to announce the best consu Dilek Caner M. Oct 20, 2008 6:33 PM
New Meetup: Vino e Cucina - A Tour of Italian Wine and Food at Gotham Hall - Announcing a new Meetup for NYC Wine club! What: Vino e Cucina - A Tour of Italian Wine and Food at Gotham Hall When: November 24,[masked]:30 PM Where: Click the link below to find out! Meetup Description: On Nov Dilek Caner M. Oct 14, 2008 10:59 AM
Meetup details changed: Tasting and Seminar at Columbus Circle Wines - We are having a meetup at one of my favorite wine stores in the city. You can see all the details at the link below. http://wine.meetup.com/5/calen­dar/8703753/ When: October 8 Dilek Caner M. Sep 6, 2008 5:14 PM
Additional Spots for Ultra Wine & Cheese Social - Our 100 spots for the large wine event on August 1st is already filled. I have added 75 spots at my other Meetup Group's website at: http://wine.meetup.com/210/ Please feel free to go there Dilek Caner M. Jul 18, 2008 1:17 PM
New Free Event Friday August 1st - Hello Everyone! On Friday August 1st, we are joining two other Meetup groups for a big social event. They've already had about 300 spots that have been taken so it will be a large event. Please go on the website to read the details Dilek Caner M. Jul 15, 2008 4:44 PM
Great in-store tastings and discounts. Please vote! - Hello Everyone, How about going on a wine store quest in New York City? That means getting to know the major wine stores, their wine selections and even their staff closely, which takes loads off the stress involved in buying wine from an unfa Dilek Caner M. Jul 10, 2008 5:01 PM
Champagne Article - Dear All, Here is the link to a very interesting article for die-hard Champagne fans: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/­article.cgi?f=/c Dilek Caner M. Jun 9, 2008 5:36 PM
New Meeting: Vertical Tasting of Margaux Chateau Prieure Lichine (81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 88) - Announcing a new meeting for NYC Wine club! What: Vertical Tasting of Margaux Chateau Prieure Lichine (81, 82, 83, 85, 86, 88) When: Friday, June 27, 6:30 PM Meeting fee: USD30.00 per person Where: Click the lin Dilek Caner M. May 26, 2008 10:03 PM
Details of the Long Island Wine Trip-Please Read - Dear All, I am very much looking forward to our Saturday trip together. Below is a reminder from Dean Gamanos, the organizer and coordinator of the trip: "The bus leaves promptly at 9:30 from 44th Street and Third Avenue (green Dilek Caner M. Apr 30, 2008 6:00 PM
Long Island Wineries Trip - Hello Everyone, I am very much looking forward to our trip to Long Island this Saturday and connecting with all of you joining us. If you've RSVPed 'Yes', please send payment to Dean Gamanos. You can find his information at the ev Dilek Caner M. Apr 27, 2008 11:09 PM
Long Island Wineries on May 3rd - Hello Everyone, Our Long Island Wineries event is on Saturday May 3rd. If you have RSVPed 'Yes', please send your checks to the address provided on the event website at: EXPERIENC Dilek Caner M. Apr 12, 2008 4:34 PM
Long Island Wine Country Trip-Deadline for Discount - Dear All, Our Long Island Wine Country Trip is on May 3rd and as a group we are receiving a pretty deep discount at $85 to the tour which normally sells at $125. If you're planning to join us, please send your checks in postmarked latest by Ap Dilek Caner M. Mar 31, 2008 3:36 PM
Wine Bars: Honey and Terroir - Dear All, Just a quick note on a couple of wine bars in case you're looking for new spots.... Yesterday's tasting was at Honey on 14th Street (betw 7th & 8th). The fondues were excellent. I would especially recommend Whi Dilek Caner M. Mar 19, 2008 3:06 PM
New Meeting: EXPERIENCE LONG ISLAND WINE COUNTRY! - Announcing a new meeting for NYC Wine club! What: EXPERIENCE LONG ISLAND WINE COUNTRY! When: Saturday, May 3, 9:30 AM Meeting fee: USD85.00 per person Meeting Description: Grape Getaways is organizing for us Dilek Caner M. Mar 4, 2008 3:26 PM
Best Wines of Friday's Event - Hello All, Thanks to everyone who participated at Friday's event. Here is a list of five wines that shared the first place: Pio Cesare Barolo 2000, Italy brought by Vicki- for me by far the best wine of the evening, this could Dilek Caner M. Feb 25, 2008 7:04 PM
Bring Your Favorite Bottle Event Feb 22 - Dear All, Please revise your RSVPs for the Bring Your Favorite Bottle Event and respond with a "Yes" only if you have already sent payment by PayPal. People who hav Dilek Caner M. Feb 19, 2008 10:17 AM
Chateauneuf du Pape Tasting Feb 6th - Dear All, There is a 2006 Chateauneuf du Pape Tasting organized by Le Du Wines at Tribeca Grill on February 6th between 12pm-4pm. I believe the tasting is free of charge but please call[masked] to make sure about the availability. Dilek Caner M. Feb 5, 2008 5:19 PM
Discount and Partial Scholarships for Wine Courses - Dear All, I would like to offer the group 4 discounted seats for Tasting World's 4-Week Wine Course on a first come first served basis. The co Dilek Caner M. Jan 30, 2008 4:24 PM
RE: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - Deb, I will look into it and adjust it so that only the messages relevant to all go through. Sorry for the confusion. Best, Dilek --- Deborah Tomassini wrote: ------------------------------­--- Maybe the meetup syst Dilek Caner M. Jan 21, 2008 12:03 PM
RE: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Maybe the meetup system should be adjusted because I did not click on "reply al user 2. Jan 21, 2008 11:58 AM
Re: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - Melissa Jan 20, 2008 6:14 PM
RE: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } HI Dilek, Can't make it unfortunately. Heading out of town in the next f user 2. Jan 20, 2008 5:29 PM
Re: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - sorry, I can't tell you sebastien Jan 20, 2008 5:08 PM
Re: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - Allen, It is not going towards a non-profit organization. It is a non-profit event, meaning that there is no profit being made on this event. All the funds are going towards the cost of the wine. Best, Dilek --- Allen Dilek Caner M. Jan 20, 2008 5:07 PM
Re: [wine-5] New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - Dilek: Since this is going towards a non-profit organization, does that mean I can write-off the $55 fee? - Allen --- Dilek Caner wrote: ------------------------------­--- Announcing a new event for NYC Wine club! Wh user 1. Jan 20, 2008 11:10 AM
New Event: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting - Announcing a new event for NYC Wine club! What: An Educational Loire Valley Tasting When: Monday, January 21, 6:30 PM Event fee: USD55.00 per person Where: Click the link below to find out! Dear All, Dilek Caner M. Jan 20, 2008 10:14 AM
New Event: Joint Tasting with Opera Meetup - Announcing a new event for NYC Wine club! What: Joint Tasting with Opera Meetup When: Friday, December 14, 7:00 PM Event fee: USD40.00 per person Where: Click the link below to find out! Event Descrip Dilek Caner M. Dec 11, 2007 7:48 PM
Sparkling Wines Tasting for the Holidays - Hello Everyone, We are having a sparkling wines tasting and party at Discovery Wines. Hope you can make it. Sparkling Christmas and Hanukkah Cheers, Dilek Dilek Caner M. Dec 6, 2007 8:01 PM
Help at Wine Events and Taste Wine for Free - Hello Everyone, If there are people who would like to taste wine free by helping out at some wine events and classes, please get in touch with me at your first convenience. Regards, Dilek Caner Dilek Caner M. Dec 5, 2007 8:28 PM
Wine Industry Jobs Seminar - Dear All, This is not one of our group Meetups, but on Monday I am holding a seminar on Wine Industry Jobs, their requirements and daily responsibilities. You can find the event description at: Dilek Caner M. Nov 24, 2007 5:17 PM
Winners of the Bring Your Favorite Bottle Event and Wine 101 - The results are in and the wine that got the highest scoring is: Prince Poniatowski Aigle Blanc Vouvray 1990, France So the prize is to be shared between Preston and Martin. You both have a spot reserved in the French Wine & Che Dilek Caner M. Nov 12, 2007 3:46 PM
Our Meetup on Nov 9th and Wine Industry - Dear Members, It is fabulous to see a good response to our bring your favorite bottle tasting, however, please remember that this is a prepaid event and unless you have paid on our website using the PayPal link, your RSVP is not valid. I am op Dilek Caner M. Nov 1, 2007 5:38 PM
Our Next Tasting... - Hello Everyone, As Sebastien left for Chicago, he transfered me the Organizer position for the group. I believe Sebastien led a great group, always with interesting events and grew the group to be the most successful wine Meetup in New York Ci Dilek Caner M. Oct 25, 2007 8:21 PM
A new beginning - Last cheers in New York Following our move to Chicago, I am stepping down as the President of NYC Wine Club. This has been three great years and I would like to thank all the members for great events and Great Spirit. Instead of stepping sebastien Sep 30, 2007 6:08 PM
Re: [wine-5] Last call for picking up your bottle - Are you selling the up for grabs? How much? On 7/27/07, sebastien < [address removed] &g user 3. Jul 27, 2007 2:46 PM
Last call for picking up your bottle - We bottled last week and everyone was very impressed by the quality of the wine. For those of you who tried the cab last year, we have a much better wine this year. Considering the last vintage was quaffable, this vintage is high quality. Following sebastien Jul 27, 2007 2:42 PM
COME BOTTLE AND PICK-UP YOUR WINE. - We have worked hard on our Sangiovese over the last 10 months. Crushing, pressing, racking... It's now time to bottle and to take it home. As a reminder, I attached the allocation at the end of this email. There are still a dozen bottles available so if y sebastien Jul 20, 2007 5:10 PM
New Event: Greek wine dinner with the owner of Vatistas Vineyards - Announcing a new event for NYC Wine club! What: Greek wine dinner with the owner of Vatistas Vineyards When: Tuesday, June 19, 8:00 PM Event fee: USD45.00 per person all included Where: Click the link below to f sebastien Jun 12, 2007 4:11 PM
This Saturday, taste your own wine - Dear Members How exciting!!! We are tasting our own wine this week-end at MYO winery in Elmsford. If you want to join this barrel tasting and the bottling in July, there are still some shares left. You buy at least two shares or two sebastien Apr 19, 2007 10:54 PM

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