Intellectual Snob Meetup-- Fake Profiles & Internet Misrepresentations

At John Harvard's, no pressure to order food. IMPORTANT: Please wear your finest or most notorious fake mustaches for this event. (Disclaimer: no one is required to wear one, we pledge equality for all especially for those who already have mustaches).

Look at the comments below for discussion points if you want any!

In the true Intellectual Snob tradition as usual we are here to pooh- pooh things we disapprove of.

You don't have to be a genuine intellectual-- pseudo-intellectuals are also welcome. All you need is an aloof attitude full of irony or some baffling ideas, or-- dare I say it-- some unanswered metaphysical question you try & get answered incognito.

Humor in good taste-- ALLOWED. Intellectual apparel: allowed. Startle the waitstaff with a goatee, Periwig, or monocle.

Or with a surprise baffling question such as, "what, then, is life?" or, confound them with, "what do you make of Chuang Tzu when he says, 'when a man dies, where does he go, North, South, East or West'?"

Fold-up sunglasses, corduroy jackets with elbow patches-- allowed. No Meerschaum tobacco pipes, please. Absinthe is not served.

That said, PLEASE BRING CASH to help your patient & hard working waitstaff, and pay as you go!

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  • Max T

    I hereby propose the official unofficial t-shirt for this Meetup: http://www.thinkgeek.com/produc...­

    July 8

  • Eliza M.

    Came around 5:40, was a bit tough to blend into conversations...ended up having a good time.

    July 6

    • Eliza M.

      I did finally see you, and we spoke. You were very kind and welcoming. I was glad too that there was a bow tie & a phony (and falling off) 'stashe! and I spent time talking to both guys ;)

      2 · July 7

  • Charlie W.

    Going to pass on this session. I thought it was going to be about altruism but the topic seems to have changed.

    1 · July 6

    • duncan

      The subject Intellual Snob "Altruism" theme has been changed to July 20th. Hope to see you there.

      July 7

  • Christine C.

    I got stuck in N H 4th traffic. After dealing with a 15 mile back up and traveling 15 mph on rt 93 I gave up and stopped in Rochester NH to eat

    July 6

  • Akhila N.

    Sorry! Could not make it! :( Moving furniture and stuff took to long

    July 6

  • Joe D.

    Present and fake

    1 · July 6

  • Dorota

    Hi Guys, this was going to be my first meetup, but something came up and I won't be able to make it. Hoping to see you all on the 20th for "Altruism".
    Have a great time tonight!

    1 · July 6

  • Scott H.

    I am a maybe

    July 6

  • Karen

    Security really? You cannot even show us show us a pattern of fair and consistent enforcement, so that it would not be arbitrary here. Post what you will if only to prove a point.

    July 5

    • A former member
      A former member

      Karen, are we discussing worldly security measures? or just still topic of your pic. On the political aspect worldly, security remains a priority regardless of fairness, however, as for your pic issue, meetups' policy permits arbitrary it appears, although I'm not stating I agree nor disagree with such policy but accordingly, the host is the "judge" whom is following meetup ' s law in this case.

      July 5

  • Dr G.

    Science not food brings people together!

    July 5

    • A former member
      A former member

      Bartering over services, goods, such as plants, gems, fuel, ie. without any formal education in science can bring people together. Also, a friend of mine just discovered an herbal concoction in which people are flocking to purchase his product, he stumbled on this accidentally which will help millions. He is an example of how humans are all scientists naturally when left to explore, use hypothesis thinking, etc.

      1 · July 5

    • A former member
      A former member

      However, Dr. Grace, my comment is not to be misinterpreted as if I don't respect formal science education. I home schooled my daughter during prime middle years which contributed to her triple major in Aerospace Engineering, Mechanical Engineering and Aviation Management. She has high regards for Biomedical and all forms of sciences.

      1 · July 5

  • Karen

    I found out which name matched which address. I found out what unlisted phone numbers belonged to
    whom and at what address. Yes will all this personally identifiable information I would know who was even on vacation and when. A neighbor who's house is not paid off yet.(perhaps I want to call the bank on them because I want the house) I even found someone else's social security number! Yes everything is either free or for sale on the internet even social security numbers!
    4 Who puts all this aggregate data together companies to sell and market us: Name,address, phone number and financial information and anything else they can find to sell regardless of the consequences. Their spy bots take what ever they can find and put it together.
    Yes it is more comfortable to have photos to meet new people but Meetup.com is not a private group of friends. Read above and do the experiment.

    July 4

  • Karen

    Homework what is listed about you and why does it matter?
    1 In Google search put your first name and the town/city of the 1 zip-code of which you are in. (zip not required)
    2 In Google put your first name and the words meetup.
    3 In Google now put your first and last name and no location. What did you find?

    July 4

  • Karen

    I found out which name matched which address. I found out what unlisted phone numbers belonged to
    whom and at what address. Yes will all this personally identifiable information I would know who was even on vacation and when. A neighbor who's house is not paid off yet.(perhaps I want to call the bank on them because I want the house) I even found someone else's social security number! Yes everything is either free or for sale on the internet even social security numbers!
    4 Who puts all this aggregate data together companies to sell and market us: Name,address, phone number and financial information and anything else they can find to sell regardless of the consequences. Their spy bots take what ever they can find and put it together.
    Yes it is more comfortable to have photos to meet new people but Meetup.com is not a private group of friends. Read above and do the experiment.

    July 4

  • Chris

    The great philosopher Confucius once stated that "A man without a mustache is a man without a soul" To audaciously suggest donning an artificial prosthetic device in order to mimic having a soul, is an abomination. I sternly disapprove and poo poo the entire notion. Perhaps you are the sort of gentleman that necessitates the personal use of a merkin, but I can assure you that civilized folks have no need to dangle a mock caterpillar on their upper lip.

    1 · July 4

  • Norma

    Security of ALL members is what the organizer has opted for by filtering out the fishy ones!
    Once again, I repeat. Karen is free to start up her own group with her own standards.
    When I believe in something, I simply act! Going on in 15 emails about this is a waste of time and energy.

    July 4

    • A former member
      A former member

      I have been agreeing all along that Karen ought to post a pic. I just simply admire anyone who doesn't give up easily on their view, so I see Karen as strong, but ultimately I'm in agreement with a pic is needed.

      1 · July 4

  • Karen

    While your at it check it out when photos are required (other meetup groups) not ALL people are required to have them (sign up date and last attended) What groups have the most favorable attendance? ( What type of people go? Snobbish = most unfavorable attendance record. Nerd fun least favorable attendance record)

    July 3

    • A former member
      A former member

      Karen, some people are classified as "Nerd" because they are anti-social/shy around others. Some are labeled "Nerd" due to one track mind of book smarts but not enough "experiences" smarts for balance. Some are labeled nerd based on unappealing looks, some based on many other categories. But Nerd and Snob are 2 completely different categories. I am a snob but didn't realize it until 47 years of people telling me I am. A snob has discriminating taste for quality in food, wines, structures and all things. Yet, I am very friendly and love to witness people's smiles...But a nerd is not a snob. I have met many sarcastic nerds filled with jealousy which shows how insecure many are and if someone isn't just like them, they can be quite rude, but many nerds are just quiet, not shy and are kind when approached, not standoffish. Yes, I agree with you Nerds have least record but sometimes that's important to build connections. I like your style of getting your point across, I'd like to meet you.

      3 · July 4

    • Drak

      I could not agree more

      1 · July 4

  • Danya

    Wait, we changed the topic? Oh well. I'll just see everybody at the next one.

    July 4

    • Norma

      Right, Danya...this debate is like beating a dead dog. Let's talk about more positive, wonderful things in this world rather than this petty nonsense.

      July 4

    • A former member
      A former member

      No debate on line! It's a reply to one's comment which is different than a debate!

      1 · July 4

  • andy

    Duncan, I'm personally not overly obsessive about privacy but I realize many people have different views. Perhaps there is room for compromise: what if everyone provides you with a real photo, but this photo is only for your verification and it is not published in the public profile?

    1 · July 3

    • Karen

      Andy Photo is taken and published in a public profile. Meetups that said from the beginning they require photo - this is done in an unfair and arbitrary manner. A smiley and photo of a backside is not a face photo but has been forever accepted. When I find other peoples social security numbers or that they have gone on vacation I laugh. It has happened then an identity is stolen and again I laugh. Some people are truly nasty people and I don't feel the need to share with them. Again, Again, where is such policy on the meetup page? No one can find I just someone preaching gospel because want to make arbitrary changes.

      July 4

    • Karen

      Other meetup I mentioned here - this is what has happened.

      July 4

  • David B

    If the topic is changed as indicated above, I am now doubly troubled.

    Anyone with a photo below some arbitrary, unarticulated standard has been kicked off. (I got a back channel email from a person who has a clear photo but got kicked off anyway.) Those who are most directly affected are the ones being excluded. I have several friends who are not willing to splash their photos across the internet, often because of a public role. I oppose a rule that excludes them.

    I represent clients before a federal agency that cheats its ass off when it promulgates regulations (the Patent Office). I am very sensitive to due process and rules made up on the fly. You can decide for yourself whether I'm overreacting.

    I am retracting my earlier proposal. I no longer think it's a good idea to allow an organizer to exclude persons on this basis, even on a per-meetup basis, ESPECIALLY when the excluded persons are precisely the topic of discussion. Duncan, I urge you to reconsider.

    David Boundy

    July 4

  • Anne C.

    Maybe Duncan can confirm? If the topic has changed, I'll see y'all at the next one!

    July 4

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello David! A reply to your question re: computer/IP lawyer....Yes! of course! You know I respect such intelligence :)

    July 4

  • Karen

    David That is the point to be discriminatory. Certain meetups say they require photos but never enforce if for ALL members. Never knew a smiley or photo of your back counted.

    July 2

    • A former member
      A former member

      Hello Karen, meetups are safer than Craigslist and there aren't generally political threats against members who show their faces on line for meetups. Also by showing your true identity it helps the others in the meetup groups feel comfortable seeing the face behind who may attend meetups. Adding a number next to your name such as Karen123 lessen confusion in the event there are other ladies named Karen without the need for last names, however, it's human nature to need to see the faces involved for other's sense of safety. However, we respect your view, so how about you send Duncan your pic to him personally, it's a win-win compromise while everyone feels safe.

      1 · July 3

    • Norma

      I have a better idea, Karen. Why don't you create your own Meet Up with your standards? You will attract all the people like you and all parties will be satisfied.

      1 · July 4

  • A former member
    A former member

    Too many people going for my taste, I like to go places when there is a smaller group because I like connection style communication.

    June 29

    • duncan

      Matty, Nerd fun has a 30% turnout so even if there are 90 people booked, you'll be talking to 30 people. I guarantee that, I have done 40 Nerd Fun meetups.

      1 · June 30

    • A former member
      A former member

      Wow, 40 Nerd fun meetups! I love your name, "Duncan" I like uniqueness.

      2 · July 4

  • David B

    Duncan --

    I just looked around for a "Meetup policy" page on meetup.com, and I can't find such a page, let alone one that states policies like "close up real photo" or no "fake names."

    There are plenty of reasons that some members may choose to not use a "close up real photo" or "real name," and I want to respect them.

    If there's such a meetup "policy", can you show us? And can you show us a pattern of fair and consistent enforcement, so that it would not be arbitrary here?

    David

    1 · June 30

    • A former member
      A former member

      Yes, I agree with you Norma that there are more important issues, however, the topic/my comment was a reply...From one woman to another, I think we can agree we have not evolved all that much except on a superficial level given the Middle East will have wars against those societies that are freer, more civilized & superpower.

      July 4

    • A former member
      A former member

      Our #1 priority shows we have not evolved all that much...Safety and security of the people are still a need and protect seed banks to grow our future food....is there any other topic more important?

      July 4

  • Karen

    In case you don't know it identity theft has been on the rise because people are stupid. These people have everything about themselves connected on the internet in one way or or another. Other are just too stupid to realize this has happened with their information.
    Some people have their real photo but not their real name but apparently this is very acceptable. Perhaps you are not aware that companies Web Bots scour the internet for your data to put it together and then to sell it to anyone who will buy it

    1 · July 3

    • Maryam D.

      If they scour the internet, they are going to do it with your social media pages, your emails, your phone and applications, meetup is the least of your worries in that case. As someone who works doing online media, I really think it's impossible to erase your trace.

      July 3

  • Karen

    There are plenty of reasons that some members may choose to not use a "close up real photo" or "real name," and I want to respect them.

    If there's such a meetup "policy", can you show us? And can you show us a pattern of fair and consistent enforcement, so that it would not be arbitrary here? To answer your question in other meetup groups that require photos a photo of a back of someones head and another with a smiley face are just some of the photos that have been acceptable for a very long time.

    July 3

    • Charles

      Karen. I fail to understand your logic. Oh OK I just remembered, I am a nerd.....

      July 3

  • A former member
    A former member

    Oh darn! I would have enjoyed this meetup session, however, I already have scheduled plans. Hope to meet you all real soon. Duncan, kudos for such a cool meetup and as for David B., I look forward to seeing you leave work behind to enjoy chatting over snob topics!

    July 3

    • duncan

      There is another fun & hopefully interesting chance to meet with this Nerd Fun event on July 20th check the schedule.

      1 · July 3

    • A former member
      A former member

      Discussions can turn into debates which is fine as long as they are fun debates with good beer/wine/coffee and laughter, to prove how we humans are so unique yet also similar. Duncan, can't wait to meet you some day.

      1 · July 3

  • Karen

    Who believes that everything about someone should be listed on the internet?- this is a stalkers and identity thieves paradise. When you meet in person if some people are down right nasty you have a right not to contribute toward them. When people are respectful you can and probably will share with them. Where is the companies "Meetup policy" page on meetup.com, and I can't find such a page, let alone one that states policies like "close up real photo" or no "fake names."

    July 3

  • andy

    Self-sufficiency is fine when you have equal access to education and healthcare, and a fair tax system, else it is just a meaningless phrase. There is no equal opportunity where there is no fair voting system (1 $ - 1 vote is not a fair system in my view), no equal access to a fair legal system, education and healthcare. The US system is not even the "law of the jungle" system, it is plutocracy run amok.

    1 · July 3

  • A former member
    A former member

    There are those whom use intellectual jargon to speak. Then there are those whom truly are intelligent. You know who you are! You are a Biomedicalengineer intellectual property lawyer (now that's a mouthful of intelligence!)

    July 3

  • A former member
    A former member

    I know first hand about "luck". The success of my business growing rapidly was partly based on "luck" due to demand in modern society needs, however, with competition entering around me, it was my strong work ethics on my part, combined with creativity, knowledge of tax math, knowledge of medical industries, social skills and more to succeed my business...But as a parent, proving our love to our kids with actions not just words, is a stepping stone for a stronger society where kids are not afraid to make mistakes, so they can feel free to innovate and desire to learn more and grasp "luck" opportunities. Too much village create nothing but confusing social agendas upon kids. Makes kids rely heavily on society as they grow instead of becoming self-sufficient. Everything we speak about and do in this world ends up being the topic for the next generation to deal with. So when we speak of topics on this meetup, let's consider how it affects the next generation!

    July 3

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello Andy, Most executives have average intelligence based on academic standards, however there are other forms of intelligence that make up the whole person whom contributes to society at large. Some folks are not out to achieve great wealth rather their definition of success are based on satisfaction through utilizing their knowledge for creativity in the sciences, i.e.. I never implied "the haves" are smarter. My daughter works for a company where she is actually smarter than the founder and CEO base on National Norm Education Standards, yet she is perfectly happy with her triple major while knowing she may never achieve same level of wealth they have, but she takes pride knowing she and other employees take part in the "haves'" success. Pride can be just as powerful as wealth itself, for these "middle" folks can bring up a company as well as bring down a company. Ultimately, Yes, I believe it's a symbiosis.

    July 3

  • andy

    That is just so opposite of true! Is $10M earning executive 500 times smarter/harder working than $20K earning gas station attendant? I know quite a few executives with at most average intelligence and also quite a few hard working gas station attendants with PhD in math. To say there is symbiosis between the two is utter nonsense. These are two different species with nothing in common. The rich become rich mainly due to luck, connections and cynical exploiting legal loopholes or worse. They are, by and large, the parasites of the society.

    July 3

  • A former member
    A former member

    RE: The "haves" have always financially supported the "have nots"... The purchases stemmed from just 1 single "have" trickles down into income for many "have nots" which defray property taxes yet toward better schools, therefore the children of the "have nots" will equally attain curriculum based education with great opportunities...I am a "have not" with the intellectual understanding it's important to respect the "haves". The "have nots" may donate dollar bills into a jar with hopes their hard earned dollars are being put to good use, while the "haves" donate through deductions for larger structures such as innovation regards to robotics for aerospace and medicine, which is empowering to the "haves" while enhancing the lives of the "have nots". The "haves and have nots" together create a symbiosis.

    July 3

  • William T.

    Sounds fun. My first meetup. Cant wait. Will try to get a mustache.

    July 3

  • Lucia

    Hi All, I'll probably be a little late as I will be working during the day. Looking forward to meeting everyone.

    June 30

  • Kim J.

    Looks like a GREAT Turnout---GOOD JOB Duncan!

    1 · June 29

  • SharonE

    Sorry, I over booked

    June 29

  • duncan

    Always post a clear face photo picture of yourself and your real name, please, that's Meetup policy. Thanks.

    June 26

  • Paul P.

    Unfortunately I will be traveling and must miss this. What a bummer! I'm totally interested in the principles of altruism.

    June 20

    • duncan

      There's another Snob Meetup July 20th also with Nerd Fun.

      June 20

  • Mark K.

    George Homans was always a favorite

    June 19

  • Andrea

    sounds great but I just realized I have a conflict - sorry.

    June 16

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