The Philosophy of Sex VIII: Bad Romance

 

"Yeah, I'm sorry, I can't afford a Ferrari,
But that don't mean I can't get you there.
I guess he's an Xbox, and I'm more Atari,
But the way you play your game ain't fair."

 

"I don't think you're right for him
Think of what it might have been
If we took a bus to Chinatown
I'd be standin' on Canal and Bowery
You'd be standin' next to me."

 

"There was a time when men were kind
When their voices were soft
And their words inviting...
Then it all went wrong."

 

"You and I are of the same mind
It seems to me that we're one of a kind
It's true to say that, when love is blind
But then true love is so hard to find
You respect me and the things I do
It was meant to be, I was made for you
Open the door to my heart, it's stopped
And I'm shocked."


Announcing our Eighth

Philosophy of Sex

 

"Bad Romance"

 

 

When love goes

right for the wrong reasons,

wrong for the right reasons,

wrong for the wrong reasons.

 

Anyone with any sensitivities should stay far away...

 

Here is our agenda for

three rounds of discussions.

Please try to arrive by 6:30 at the latest.

 

6 PM Social

7 PM Round One: Bad Dates

8 PM Round Two: Bad Love

9 PM Round Three: Bad Sex

 

 

Drink Specials All Evening

 

$5 Select Beers

$7 Select Wines

$7 Specialty Cocktails

 

 

We have short social breaks between rounds.

To meet and debate with many friends (old & new),

everyone joins together into new groups for each round.

 

Join us for food, drinks, and discussions at

Chelsea Manor.

 

A Philosophy of Sex event combines food and drink,

an upscale Manhattan intellectual environment,

and a social atmosphere for New Yorkers

to get together, mingle, and discuss interesting topics.

 

How to Attend the Live Event

All members in good standing are welcome to RSVP and attend.

Due to the limited number of spots,

past no-shows must pay the $10 no-show fee online

before RSVPing for this event.

Members with a 'no-show' title next to their RSVP

will have their RSVP removed without notice.

See our Attendance Policy for details.

 

 

Over the course of the evening, members gather in small groups for discussions. Between each discussion round, everyone socializes and has a chance to order food/drink. With a chance to join several groups throughout the event, attendees have a chance to meet many others while engaging in spirited debates in a highly social atmosphere.

 

 

 

Tuesday Evening

An event hosted by New York Philosophy. Upscale atmosphere, a philosophic/free-thinking crowd. Please dress to impress. All are welcome. RSVP here if you'd like to attend.

Wednesday Evening

An event hosted by NYC Social Networking and New York Euro. An upscale, highly social atmosphere. Please dress to impress. RSVP with those groups if you are interested.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is *not* a typical meet-and-greet open social,

this is a "Cocktails & Conversations"-styled event

with three rounds of active and challenging debates.

 

It will be crowded, it will be edgy, it will be fun -

we ask everyone to keep noise levels down

and participate in all discussions.

 

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  • Richard P.

    Thanks Robin! I missed that too:)

    March 20, 2013

  • Tom D.

    This is fun.

    March 19, 2013

  • Nan B.

    Robin,
    M. Scott Peck wrote a best seller for doubters titled "People of the Lie".

    March 19, 2013

  • Richard P.

    Sorry Robin , but it looks like you missed target slightly with your respond. Not sure what it was referred about, but I'm than glad to have any discussion and you are more that welcome

    March 19, 2013

  • Daniel

    Hey! No more sacred a religion than sex! :-)

    March 19, 2013

  • Nan B.

    Smiting to be struck with a hard weapon. Words are weapons too. If people feel nefarious they should keep there thoughts to themselves. Tom!

    Yes the devil is alive and well and living in the thoughts, words and pen of those who allow him in. "Some of us" choose to be gracious to "all."

    1 · March 16, 2013

    • Tom D.

      Am I in trouble? I meant this straight. No nafarity. I think the Bible story had to do with the Lord wanting to smite

      March 16, 2013

    • Tom D.

      ...to smite a sinful city, but held off, because there was one good man.

      March 16, 2013

  • Nan B.

    Plan and simple men are concerned about a gal's spending habits and i agree with men. I've heard some men feel like ATM machines.

    Men & women need to be honest about their spending habits and living necessities. Couples must afford themselves or budget, budget, budget. The reality is money and living conditions matters.

    Another golden rule ....Never, never spend what you can't comfortably afford.

    March 16, 2013

    • Tom D.

      Can we get back to the chores and sex? That sounds like a good saturday.

      March 16, 2013

  • Drew

    (not the best idea right after someone wrote 'nefarious and 'devil, but it's such an important topic {love} that I must chime in. You can shoot me after)
    -I agree with Natalie. Important distinction. It seems many use the physical to justify their later emotional response. I think it should be the other way around.
    -Yes, seems to be a difference in 'dress code'. But someone explained it, and it made sense. None of it bad.
    -Why are we 'tormented by women's beauty' exactly?? And why should we? When is beauty a bad thing?
    -And yes... unfortunately, painfully, there seems to be a 'business' mentality' to Love nowadays. Many women at both tables I sat at talked about LOVE (capitals), yet Had to mention money also.
    Maybe it's because of where we live; maybe it's the times. Or maybe... it has to do with dis-satisfaction.
    But now answer this: Why would a woman leave her millionaire husband (real case) if Love needs money?
    ( Blame internet communicatin' for the short quip replies)

    March 16, 2013

    • Drew

      I would like to say this though. We are taught many things in school but the two most important subjects, subjects that we have to deal with from the day we're born to the day we die... the truth about money and how it Really works, and relationships... are hardly touched upon. Money fascinated when I was younger. Now, I'm curious abt the second one.

      March 16, 2013

    • Nan B.

      Men need to give an orange, and women need to feed and nurture the baby. The last time I looked their were no free banana's growing in mid-town :)

      1 · March 16, 2013

  • Nan B.

    In his book the Prophet Kahlil Gibran wrote about marriage. If his concepts were accepted by "most", marriage would be understood to those who choose to learn how easy it is to live in a joyful marriage.

    March 16, 2013

  • Kevin C.

    Geez! It's like men and woman have become like the "Jets" and the "Sharks". What's happened in the last 20 years that this seeming devide has come about? Curious to hear others views on why this loneliest city in the world, is getting lonelier. If Nan is correct in that everyone "secretly" wants marriage, then what's the problem? Why are fewer people choosing these days? Also, why does everyone "secretly" want marriage? Why so secretive? Earnest, constructive comments are greatly appreciated!

    1 · March 16, 2013

  • Edward P S.

    Objects In the Mirror are closer Than They appear

    March 16, 2013

  • Tom D.

    Nan's happy marriage truth is a delightful notion. Thoughts like this waft up to heaven and our Maker puts off smiting us for one more day.

    March 16, 2013

  • Nan B.

    Men and woman still desire to fall in love and still secretly wish for a happy marriage with traditional values. Friendship, love, living together, sharing daily chores and sex ...all else is big time BS. Everyone comprehends this truth. Their will always be people who find every excuse to do the right thing.

    1 · March 15, 2013

    • John P

      Whenever I here someone say "everyone" or "no one" when they refer to a human trait they are ALWAYS wrong by generalizing all humans.

      March 15, 2013

    • Nan B.

      John, what part of a marriage truth is not understood by everyone. Best, Nan

      March 15, 2013

  • Richard P.

    Traditional marriage nowadays not an easy thing. More and more marriage becoming a business between two individuals rather than something from deep of your heart .

    March 15, 2013

  • Richard P.

    When we are going to have another get together? Looks to me, organizer of this group very slow and undersided! Maybe he needs some boost to make things happened faster:)

    March 14, 2013

  • Richard P.

    Not saying its me Robin, just pointing out in general. Plus figures not always reflects reality. Also, it makes diference whether you born in states or you are just came from different countries , it's cultural differences plays huge role as well

    March 14, 2013

  • Richard P.

    Sure Robin, that is obvious!. I just wanted to to point it out,that there are always more talk going than real action regardless of situation...

    March 13, 2013

  • Richard P.

    Thanks Robin for hopefull respond:) At least I know now, it's not everything lost in US yet, and women still want sex:)!

    March 13, 2013

  • Richard P.

    I hope Robin not only talk,like majority women do...

    March 13, 2013

    • SCM

      How classy.

      March 13, 2013

  • Natalie

    Too much about physical love and not enough about emotional love in my humble opinion...

    1 · February 12, 2013

    • Marie

      I agree with Natalie... @Tom I'll let you in on a little secret...most women dress to impress other women...shhhh...

      1 · February 15, 2013

    • Tom D.

      Yes, Philip Wylie worked that out, I think the novel was The Disappearance. Why women presnet themselves well has something to do with gardening and gathering in the ancestral environment, I believe. Men are wrong to accuse women of tormenting them with thier physical beauty. If all the men disappeared women would dress exactly the same. However, men are in fact tormented by women's beauty, and a good kid has compassion.

      February 17, 2013

  • Richard P.

    @ Mark . Agree with your statement ...

    February 15, 2013

  • mark

    @ Richard. Possibly so. Although in all fairness the cut of the cloth does not necessarily dictate the character of a man... or a woman. Nor their mettle. I am inclined to agree, having pride in ones appearance is one thing. When it crosses into vanity, that's something else. Sexiness and attractiveness can manifest themselves in a number of ways. That's just one of them.

    February 15, 2013

  • Richard P.

    I quess Natalie,it has to do with your origin of birth. In Europe both men and women taking pride of dressing and showing a good taste,maybe that is way whenever you see woman you can tell whether she is from US or Europe! And its so amazing when women trying to look sexy and dresses up! This is what yoy really missing in US...

    1 · February 15, 2013

  • Natalie

    FYI Tom, women too are attracted by a man's physical appearance as this is the first thing you notice before you get to know a person, but it is not enough to sustain anything if the rest (everyone has their own criteria) is not there. Personally, I don't dress to impress anyone. I wear what I like and what I feel looks good on me. It is great to grow older in the sense that you don't care what others think, except your true friends and loved ones. This is so liberating! Dressing (or undressing in the case of many young women who leave nothing to the imagination) or competing with others to impress the opposite sex will only get you so far. Yes, you might get sex if that is all you are looking for, but seldom a relationship or respect. This is why young women are so miserable these days. Unfortunately, I deal with it all the time and eating disorders have never been so prevalent... Very sad indeed!

    4 · February 15, 2013

  • Nan B.

    Hi Jerry,
    Hope you're well. I'm sorry to say I got the dates mixed up for this session. The reports claim positive remarks even thou the group did not adhere to usual format. Was it interesting to you?
    Best,
    Nan

    February 14, 2013

  • Jerry C.

    Good interactions. All the moderators were good, with different styles. Groups were a bit too large, but it all worked out.

    February 14, 2013

  • Edward P S.

    Excelent

    February 14, 2013

  • Eve

    Wonderful, interesting people, everyone open to listening to each other, & you never knew who was going to come up with what! It seemed to bring out the best in everyone, it was nice to cut directly to the best in them and communicate on that level.

    1 · February 14, 2013

  • Kelly L

    I actually thought this meetup is great ! I love it ! The rotations were good. I went to 3 different ones and got to know different stories and valuable experiences. Look forward to more of this in the future,

    February 14, 2013

  • pt

    The topic made for interesting discussion, not all of it on a philosophical plane. People were engaged and it was fun to share
    and learn about others' experiences.

    February 13, 2013

  • Lissa

    I thought the event was excellent and stayed for all 3 sessions. It's an ideal format, and the rotations worked well. I'll be coming to more!

    February 13, 2013

  • SusanW

    Great new venue, very sweet and accommodating staff. All three of my rounds were fun, provocative and stimulating. We quickly left behind the suggested format and just used it as a springboard...very suprising discussions evolved. Most people were quite candid and honest in their replies. Summed up: frisky, fun, open and forthright. Big thanks to our hosts!

    1 · February 13, 2013

  • John

    @lisa: for any meetup group, just click on 'my profile' and adjust your settings

    February 13, 2013

  • Bill

    I had an excellent time as well... our group found plenty of things to discuss and used all the questions as a springboard to launch our debates into interesting and unexpected places. I appreciated the chance to share things that are otherwise difficult to talk about, and enjoyed listening to what other people felt free to share.

    Thanks to the people who facilitate these meetups! I'm definitely looking forward to the next opportunity to see everyone!

    Peace, Bill

    1 · February 13, 2013

  • John

    @all: thanks for the positive comments (and the critiques, those are appreciated as well). keep the feedback coming, we take all of them seriously! Chelsea Manor is a new venue for us - the staff liked the group and we'll be back there.

    @haydee: the organizers try hard to get everyone to rotate to new groups ea round, but some ppl resist... I'll contact you directly about your ideas :-)

    1 · February 13, 2013

  • Michael

    Wow. Um, Wow! What I mean to say is...wow! In addition, well...wow!!!!

    February 13, 2013

  • Maria K.

    Oh my God! I had so much fun!!! Everybody I met was so interesting to talk to and to hear. I had a great time

    1 · February 13, 2013

  • Marie

    My first time at this meet-up and it was a blast. The lounge space was great for conversation with good seating. Special shout out to the staff who were uber nice and attentive, and the cocktails/drinks were reasonably priced at $7-$9. I enjoyed meeting everyone and diving into some really interesting conversation sparked by the questions. I'm amazed at how open and honest people were and I learned a lot. Thank you to the organizers, job well done!

    1 · February 13, 2013

  • Haydee

    I enjoyed the interesting conversations and the questions that members proposed. I would prefer a more structured grouping to ensure discussion with a whole set of new people including different types of people each round. Perhaps where everyone gets a number and rotates in a certain way based on it. I can explain better or help come up with a system if needed.

    February 13, 2013

  • Louiza

    I went late but people were interesting and venue was nice.

    February 13, 2013

  • Dan

    The event and the people were great, but I thought the questions about specific experiences, i.e. "What was your worst high school date?", didn't lend themselves to much discussion.

    1 · February 12, 2013

  • John P

    The topics elicited stories, not debate.

    February 12, 2013

  • Clyde

    think i'm stuck at work tonight

    February 12, 2013

  • Melissa

    Running late but Marcela and I are en route

    February 12, 2013

  • Monica

    Unfortunately, I have a meeting I need to attend last minute. Would have loved to be a part of the interesting discusssion!

    February 12, 2013

  • Kevin C.

    Looking forward to this. However, I won't be able to arrive until 6:30. Is that okay?

    February 12, 2013

  • Kurt W.

    Sorry, my law school class is getting extended at the last minute until 6. I wish I could attend!

    February 12, 2013

  • naresh d.

    have to do more than planned, try to make it

    February 12, 2013

  • April

    Alas, my cold hasn't cleared up yet. Sorry to miss this!

    February 12, 2013

  • John

    @christine: tonight's a night for dirty laundry :-)

    February 12, 2013

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