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"New York Philosophy" Message Board › Immortality

Immortality

A former member
Post #: 305
Why can't we live forever?
John
broughton
New York, NY
Post #: 173
we are programmed to reproduce and die in order to promote variations in the genome.

yeah, that doesn't sound very pleasant or romantic :-)
A former member
Post #: 159
Why can't we live forever?

It is philosophically impossible and would utterly change the nature and way of life on earth.

If we are immortal, then how could we conceive non-existence? And if we exist without that, then we could not perceive good or evil.

Reason is Man's basic means of survival or that which is rational is required for Man to survive properly.

The standard of the good is a Man's life. That which is the good is rational and the bad is irrational and creates suffering. The logical conclusion of the latter is death - evil ultimately perishes.

Some people ask the question even how do know that we exist? One can study what exists and how consciousness functions, but one cannot analyze or "prove" existence as such or cosciousness as such.

These are irreducible primaries - an attempt to prove existence is self-contradictory.

One cannot prove existence by non-existence or consciousness by means of unconsciousness. We exist and we know it.
A former member
Post #: 306
we are programmed to reproduce and die in order to promote variations in the genome.

yeah, that doesn't sound very pleasant or romantic :-)

lol. Just don't ever say that as your explanation of love to your girlfriend. I'm just teasing you.

But seriously, death should have nothing to do with it.
A former member
Post #: 307
The standard of the good is a Man's life. That which is the good is rational and the bad is irrational and creates suffering. The logical conclusion of the latter is death - evil ultimately perishes. (quote)

Your speaking it from an individualistic term though. It still exists the suffering.
A former member
Post #: 18
The standard of the good is a Man's life. That which is the good is rational and the bad is irrational and creates suffering. The logical conclusion of the latter is death - evil ultimately perishes.

Adolf Eichmann was extremely rational in his role in the 'final solution', yet I doubt that many persons would hold him to be the 'standard of the good'.
A former member
Post #: 19
Why can't we live forever?

Are you asking why we cannot live forever physically?

Certainly we can agree that certain individuals have left traces that have elevated their lives to 'immortality', although not in a strinct religious sense. There is also the cult of stardom that has ensured a certain 'immortality' to certain persons.
A former member
Post #: 308
Are you asking why we cannot live forever physically? (quote)

Yes.
A former member
Post #: 160
The standard of the good is a Man's life. That which is the good is rational and the bad is irrational and creates suffering. The logical conclusion of the latter is death - evil ultimately perishes.

Adolf Eichmann was extremely rational in his role in the 'final solution', yet I doubt that many persons would hold him to be the 'standard of the good'.

What is rational about murder? What is rational about acting in a way that ultimately ends in one's self-destructon? Nothing.

Eichmann was not all rational. He was a mystic and embraced the irrational, evil ethic of self-sacrifice. Philosophically he was openly a Kantian - and there is no more irrational philosopher than that, an individual who linked reason to religion, undermining reason in way that has never allowed it to recover.

You are wrong besides being offensive.
A former member
Post #: 161
Are you asking why we cannot live forever physically? (quote)

Yes.

It is a bizarre question to say the least to add "physically". Exactly in what other sense can one exist? Living means one thing - living as an individual, breathing, eating and so on.....

This is a philosophical board not a religious one.
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