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Re: [atheists-619] freedom of speech violated by Police in Pa.(youtube video)

From: Jim M.
Sent on: Friday, April 2, 2010 10:32 PM
I'm joining this conversation rather late, but I can tell you that the odious 9-12 Project is rooted in Glenn Beck's utterly ignorant and fallacious understanding of the Founding Fathers and what they stood for. "Right-wing propaganda" is not the half of it. 

Let's say it again, children, loudly and clearly: the Founding Fathers were -- in the main -- deists, freethinkers, and contrarians who were utterly disgusted by the way organized Christianity had underwritten tyranny and religious wars for thousands of years. Their worldview was cosmopolitan, philosophical, and intellectual. It was not remotely evangelical and only tangentially theistic. Benjamin Franklin is on record as rejecting the alleged divinity of Jesus of Nazareth. Thomas Paine was the sort of person we would now call an atheist. 

As has often been noted, the most important word in the United States Constitution is the word that isn't there: the word "God." To Glenn Beck I say, "You can have you own opinions, sir, but you cannot have your own facts."

In short, this "Introduction to the Constitution" is a total shuck and a complete scam. Caveat emptor.

Cheers, Jim

www.jamesmorrow.net

On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:55 PM, Dave D. wrote:

I'd kind of like to go to a class on law and the constitution, but if you click on the sign-up button it says: "Hosted by The 9-12 Project of Central Pennsylvania (http://912CentralPA.org)".  Makes me wonder what they'll be teaching.  For example, their second principle is: "2. I believe in God and He is the Center of my Life."  I'd hate to go and find out it's a bunch of right-wing propaganda...

Dave

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Rhonda Holland <[address removed]> wrote:
Cops are SUCH assholes at times.  I know the majority of them have never read the Constitution, the document they swear to uphold.  I hope a lawsuit was filed over this!

If anyone is interested there is going to be a class on the Constitution in State College on April 25th (that's a Sunday so I know you won't have anything better to do LOL).  The cost is $100 but it should be well worth it, especially if you are an atheist who likes to protest or is active in the community where our right to not believe in a fairy sky pixie is so frequently violated.  Details at: http://wesurroundthemcentrecounty.ning.com/

So far most of the people I know who are signed up are from the Ron Paul meetup group (which I am also a member of).  When Ron Paul's campaign was in full swing the big (national) forum had lots of atheists who were very active.  I haven't been able to connect with many local atheist Ron Paul freedom loving supporters -- so if you are out there please contact me.

Hope everyone gets visited by the Equinox Bunny and is rewarded with lots of candy <330.png>


Rhonda
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
- John F. Kennedy


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Richard <[address removed]> wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wUo24sfNlI

 well, some weak minded people got his FB removed. so he is on youtube.
me and many others called and emailed the police station and made complaints against these cops.


Call the Lower Allen Twnshp police department Here is the phone number[masked]
You can make an email complaint here
http://www.lower-allen.pa.us/index.php?option=com_facileforms&Itemid=206
Officers
Donald Sentman
I think the other officer was 
Donald Coffey






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