Re: [atheists-619] freedom of speech violated by Police in Pa.(youtube video)

From: Rhonda H.
Sent on: Friday, April 2, 2010 10:52 PM
Jerel,

You certainly did not offend me, I can understand your point of view.? However, do you think these cops would have done the same thing if he was a member of a church and was outside a gay bar holding a sign that said "God Hates Fags"?? If a gay person called in the complaint would a cop even bother to go check it out?? Certainly that sign would be equally offensive but there is a double standard.

The cop tells the protester the event is being recorded so the cop has already agreed to have the interaction recorded but yet he is claiming that because the protester did not say the same words back that somehow a law is being violated.? Now seriously, if you are recording an event how could you possibly complain that someone else is recording the same event -- unless you want to be able to manipulate the recording an a later date and not have any evidence in existence that could contradict it.

There are far better ways to protest religion/the church and I would have chosen one of them over his sign BUT he is entitled to his Constitutional right of free speech, which is what his sign represents.? And the video is right that with so many laws being passed around the world declaring that you cannot do or say anything that offends someone's religion it may one day be illegal here in the US to criticize ANYTHING or ANYONE regarding religion, no matter how silly their beliefs are.? As atheists we need to stand up for our rights or we are going to lose them.

I'm a member of Atheist Station and we use to do lots of protests in Blair County but some of our members have had major health problems so we haven't done much lately.


Dave,

I am not a member of their group but it states a member must support 7 of the 9 principles, the only one I would not support is #2.

If you google Michael Badnarik, the person who is giving the class, it will give you a good idea of what to expect.? I have caught a few clips of his on YouTube and I am thrilled that he will be in the area.? I don't know his religious beliefs but I love his "No, I will not comply!? Period." speech.? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbNIU2KEz4g

None of the people I know who have signed up are the type to force religion on anyone.? As I said, I got notified about the class via the Ron Paul group and RPers as a general rule want freedom of all types for everyone.? They don't want to tell you how to live your life and don't want the government telling you either.

Good to see there is finally some discussion of the list ? I use to belong to the PA Godless list which had lots of discussion (but also one person who really grated on my nerves).



Rhonda
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
- John F. Kennedy

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