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North Bay Skeptics

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  • Tor S.

    Go Danny boy! He's got to be the most 'diplomatic' of the 'new atheist' bunch. Talk about non-combative. I envy his skills. Listening to Warren, I was getting a sick feeling in my stomach.......

    May 26, 2013

  • Richard K.

    OK, Tor. You might also enjoy the pair of TED talks I paid attention to this morning. They were the top two entries from asking google this: warren purpose driven life ted talk. The author of "The Purpose Driven Life" followed by Dan Dennett's discussion of that book and its ideas. Is this conversation, between meetings, a good way to make up for the deficiencies of the meetings themselves? There's no wine, cheese, bread and deviled eggs here. Or are they Godded eggs? Or evolved eggs from hens domesticated and selected by human farmers?

    May 25, 2013

  • Tor S.

    Thanks, Richard. A wonderful way to spend 45 minutes on a Sunday morning, certainly one of my favorite things to do in this world. As most of us know, there are literally dozens of such talks on YouTube, not only by Dennett, but by any number of 'heros' who illustrate in language beyond normal capacity the issues so dear to our hearts.

    May 25, 2013

  • Richard K.

    We were discussing atheism and conversion to that status. I like Dan Dennett and I found this talk of his interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=OA5NyJV9nFc&feature=fvwp which is titled 'How To Tell You're An Atheist'

    1 · May 24, 2013

  • Tor S.

    I found no point for this meeting. It was not interesting, provocative or in any way inspiring. Discussions were seemingly random and unfocused. This was basically a chit-chat session.

    May 22, 2013

    • Dixon W.

      Tor, have you noticed the sexist function of the religious practice of circumcision? The covenant with God is sealed by the cuttingoff of a body part. The body part chosen is one that men have and women don't (though the clitoral hood is homologous). Thus, the covenant with God is direct for men, but indirect for women, who participate in it through their relationship with circumsized men. Patriarchy at its "finest"!

      May 23, 2013

    • Tor S.

      Absolutely, excellent point. I think there would be substantially more outrage in modern times if females were to be dehooded also, as religious edict (let's not get into the subject of clitorectomy—Rachel would have a heart attack). Keep in mind, though, that the practice of circumcision is an American 'medical' practice, not just religious, even though it's genesis is Jewish. The American medical application is far worse than the Jewish one, being more radical in the degree of the mutilation. Also, Jews get cut on the 8th day, non-Jews on day 1. I find extreme denialism especially among American females, which is disturbing, to say the least. Mainly, it's, "But it's esthetically more appealing". American men are also in denial because, "Hey, there's nothing wrong with me. If I had any more feeling, I wouldn't be able to handle it. My sex is great as is". When skeptics and atheists hold these ignorant views, I question humanity itself.

      1 · May 23, 2013

  • Barry C

    Regret missing tonight ... last-minute priority hiccup. Next time ...

    May 21, 2013

  • Brian K.

    Sorry I can't make it tonight... we've had a couple "emergencies" at work and it's 12-14 hour days for me for a bit. (and by "emergencies" I mean 1st world "emergencies")

    May 21, 2013

  • Gerry B.

    Damn. Looks like some good discussions are in the queue but obligations abound and I can't make it this time. Next month perhaps.

    May 20, 2013

  • Barry C

    Have we a theme/topic/"homework" for this time? Thanks!

    May 7, 2013

    • hollie

      No theme, orchestrated mayhem.

      May 19, 2013

    • Barry C

      Works for me ...

      May 19, 2013

  • Dixon W.

    Are all you new folks aware of the North Bay Skeptics Facebook group?
    Well, I guess you are now :^D

    May 15, 2013

  • Ryan J.

    My first time attending a meeting (as I signed up yesterday) but my curiosity has gotten the better of me.

    1 · May 15, 2013

  • Tor S.

    The Templeton Foundation is quite clear what it's about in its mission statement so Tutu, being in the theologian category, was a viable candidate. To be an expert in theology, though, isn't impressive. "I'm an expert in fairies". Neither is wearing silly hats and robes. Nor the trite idea of conflating good deeds with "spirituality", morality with god.
    TF assumes "human purpose" and "ultimate reality". It's stated vision is to acquire "new spiritual information". Is it any wonder, Adam, that religion sneaks in?

    1 · April 19, 2013

  • Tor S.

    Ditto, Adam. Looks like we both just joined. I was looking for Bill Hicks' People Who Hate People Party but found NBS instead.
    Should suffice-ha. (Hey! I'm not implying that skeptics don't like/love people.) I just can't stand bullshit; regrettably it's everywhere.

    1 · April 19, 2013

  • Tor S.

    Just received the welcome letter from Mathew, in which he perfectly stated our predicament: we are 'apostates' in a deeply embedded cultural fabric based on the religion of 'New Age'. We have our 'work' cut out for us.

    April 17, 2013

  • Tor S.

    Just joined. Too bad I missed yesterday's meeting.
    See you soon.
    Tor

    1 · April 17, 2013

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