Free Speech

Attention all concerned Americans:

The Alex Jones Channel is blocking comments and accounts for pro Peter Joseph comments. I personally have had FOUR accounts blocked for my viewpoints here in AMERICA. Alex Jones is TOTALLY GUILTY & SCUM. .. what a loud coward... I am thoroughly disgusted.

another Bill O'reilly another Michael Reagan... just another paid shill.
Alex is now completely exposed. He is paid to fearmonger 80% truth.

Let's call this spade a spade and empower our truth movement even more.

My love and respect to all those involved in this quest for truth.

Unity.

Thanks for starting this discussion, Alec!

Let me just say this... Alex Jones is an IDIOT! I watched Zeitgeist (Addendum) in its entirety many times, and then I watched the first set of youtube links where Alex rips the movies. Alex Jones consistently takes the ideologies out of context and he makes these LEAPS, from out of nowhere and interprets the movie as if that's what Peter Joseph is really saying. I watched the movie without ANY of the interpretations that Alex Jones has, and I find his comments completely baseless. I found myself asking "What the heck is Alex complaining about?" As one of many examples, when the movie makes references to a "united world", Alex Jones automatically assumes it is referencing the New World Order and a One World Government, when it was referencing a united human race supported by our resource and environment. Alex's knee jerk responses is evident of the very social conditioning that Zeitgeist references. This should be so obvious to any intellectual person watching the Movie and Alex Jones' response to the movie supporting my observations.

After watching the Alex Jones's interview of Peter Joseph just now, it just supports even more of my observations and analysis of Alex Jones' own psyche. Alex doesn't even know how to have an intellectual debate or discussion, and he continues to takes things out of context and makes leaps and suggestions out of his own social conditioning, where as Peter is the one who is trying to analyze the differences, intellectually with open-mindedness. Alex continues to talk over him. Alex is NOT a very good listener -- I guess that's why he has his own radio show. I didn't realize how annoying, immature, and CONTROLLING Alex jones is himself.

I appreciate some of things Alex Jones have done and a few 9/11 videos he's compiled, although a lot of it he turns it into marketing hype - it's good for his business. The interview of Peter Joseph just instills a greater level of confidence, appreciation, and love I have for Zeitgeist (Addendum). I have no respect for Alex Jones and after sitting down and watching an Alex Jones Show for the very first time, I really have to question my understanding of the people who support and follow him. Alex Jones is not the gospel! In fact, this interview proves how short-sighted he is of his own fundamental understanding of the social economic interactions of humanity, nature, and the monetary system.

Alex Jones Show is controlled, I guess just like any other media company. He's controlling what he believes to be right or wrong, good information or disinformation, the tone and viewpoints. I try to be open-minded, but let me blundt - the guy is out of Texas, how much diversity can we really get out of him? He's religious, and most likely anti-gay and anti-nonwhites. In the world of Alex Jones and even Ron Paul supporters (in other parts of the country), you have some that have a white supremist bent, who will not out-right say their disdain for blacks or asians, as an example, but their viewpoints and actions demonstrate just that, and then there are a few like me who are more liberal in viewpoints, diversity, and lifestyle - most Libertarians are not liberal in this sense!

Freedom of Speech is NOT free when they are not inclusive of every point-of-view out there. I believe in freedom of speech, individual rights, but I also believe in Community-based values and diversity. AJ does not represent the community interest, nor does he support free speech on his show unless he agrees with you.

peace out
Freedom Fighter

Hey Alec - check this site out. I just discovered this tonight because Cynthia Mckinney was the only Third Party candidate to appear in what was supposedly a presidential debate among all Third Party candidates.

It's called Break - the - Matrix:
http://www.breakthema...

Let me know what you think of it. I definitely had a blast voicing my opinion on the internet radio waves with the host tonight! There are definitely other internet radio shows outside of Alex Jones. People don't get me wrong, AJ has some good stuff to contribute, but he's not the gospel.

btw, here's a clip of verbiage around Free Speech from their very own website on Break the Matrix:
"Fair Warning: An essential aspect of freedom is free speech. You will see a wide variety of views posted by members of our community. You may not agree with some of the things you read."

Peace out
Freedom Fighter

If it wasn't for Alex Jones' footage, Peter Joseph's films would be cut in half.

In fact, 9-11 Truth has nothing to do with the goals of the movie, so I wonder why he put it in....hmmm.....

Painting Alex Jones and Texans as white-supremacist religious kooks will surely make you more credible. I've lived in Texas for a year, how about you? I didn't see a whole lot of white sheets in fashion there.

By the way, let me reiterate: The people from this group that I have met in person, who actually come to wake people up on real issues, are Patriots and bleed red white and blue. They believe in Restoring our Republic and Constitution, and dumping the Federal Reserve for real, Constitutional money, despite the ramblings from the UN World Christ. They don't believe in any other alternative, nor do I. If they did, I wouldn't be here.

You guys should really form your own Z-Group or whatever, as virtually no one here buys what Peter Joseph is selling. It was a good try by attempting to hijack the explosive Patriot and Freedom movements, but he has been exposed and his credibility is gone. His 15 minutes are up.

You wanna talk about free speech: Why is it that the comments are disabled for Zeitgeist Addendum that is posted here: http://www.youtube.co...

I guess Peter Joseph doesn't care to hear any criticism from the simple-minded chattel, eh? Ooh, it's just too complex for my feeble little brain.

Gotta go, as my head hurts now from all the intellectual greatness that is Zeitgiest :)

Really? I am glad you have taken upon yourself to speak for all of us. I am seeking alternatives to capitalism because it drives profit before human needs/interests. And everyone I meet through here and the san diego 9/11 group I am always sure to meet people with different opinions on where we should go/what we should do.

Alex Jones calls himself the father of the 9/11 movement. What a joke. What kind of person would say that? Movements dont need leaders. They need participants as we all are. I find Alex Jones to lack in depth understandings of economics, global politics, elite factions, etc. His answers are simplistic and lack the depth necessary to fully understand what really drives markets. The "elite" are not a simple cohesive mass that make decisions from one ruling cadre. It is far more complex.

There is diversity of opinion about the foundations of economics. Many supurb theorists today argue that capitalism and democracy are incompatable. By the way, restoring the repubic does not necessarily mean restoring free market capitalism. They are two different issues.

Learning is an ongoing and life long process....

Who cares what Alex Jones says about himself? Personally I've never heard him say that he was the "father of the 911 truth movement" and if I didn't know better I'd say that was disinformation. It does not sound like something he would say at ail: on the contrary the guy is very selfless and tremendously courageous. This comes from things that I have personally seen him do.
If you would care to elaborate on just what "opinions" Alex Jones is censoring, let's discuss it and maybe you can turn more people to your fight against him.
Yes, he is loud, often brash but not obnoxious. He is a true soldier in this war.
Be respectful. Stop this pettiness.

The fundamental issue between Alex Jones & Peter Joseph is in the existence of God & evil.

Jones, as a Christian, is clearly upset about the religious aspect of the first Zeitgeist. He uses his religion as his crutch in all this & Joseph undermines this security. I think that explains his defensive behavior.

Secondly, being a Christian, Jones also believes in the existence of evil, but Joseph believes that everyone is born the same & it is social-conditioning that makes people evil. I find this topic incredibly interesting as the elite we are fighting against believe in this notion that man is inherently evil. It comes from Freud & later, Edward Bernays took up the idea. It can all be seen in the 'Century of Self' 4 part series, it's one of the most informative documentaries around:

http://video.google.c...

Personally, I think Joseph is right in this but I can also understand how terrifying Zeitgeist must be for those who hold on to religion. For that reason, I think religion should've been left out of the movie...wait! hear me out! It is evident that in the future, Christians will be the first fighting on our side & therefore we should come together on this - religion can be discussed later but it is not our immediate problem here & attacking Christianity only divides us. Secondly, Christianity does have a big part to play in all this, considering that we are fighting against people who actually believe they are the descendants of the 'money-changers' themselves!

It's true that Jones has a huuuuuge personality & we have to take the advantages of that with the disadvantages. It always brings a smile to my face to see him yelling insults at the Bilderbergers!!!

There is a lot to like about Alex Jones, but he did post that he was the "Father of the 9/11 Truth Movement" as a banner on his website infowars.com all of 2006. He allows people to say that as way of introduction to him without him commenting on it.
His belief in evil and other religious non-sense leads to his silly conclusions that devil worshippers are running the game, that bohemian grove participants are devil-worshippers, etc. That misleads people as to whom we are really struggling against and the institutions in real power and their relationships to other institutions of power.
Like there is one dominating group (of possibly satanists) running the game through the CFR, Bilderbergers, etc. This is hardly an accurate portrayal of the institutions of power we are up against. Actually, its fuckin stupid!