MI0TEE: This re-listing uniquely features the full posted history of this event series, along with attendance and repeat-frequency estimates and links to all cross-postings known, plus key synopsis & reviews.
MI8G7K: Possibly more; no search yet done.
MI8GG3:Full agenda, in order:
MI9YS3: Presently the most complete agenda
MI9YYN: in order:
MI8GJ7: 1000- "Lecture 1..: Creating your first Web API, using Ruby on Rails"
MI93GZ: 1130- "Lab 1..: Setting up your Dev environment and make said Web API"
MI8GJP: 1430- "Lecture 2..: Creating your first Android App, which uses the created Web AP" aka Lecture on the basics of making an Android application for those with some programming experience but new to Android.
MI9YMC: "how to write a simple Android app which communicates with an API.. (hit a URL, get JSON, use object to display Image, User data, blah blah)" emails Miles
MI9Y8L: "Can be a Phonegap lecture as well" says Miles.
MI8IQT: goal: to give users a taste of Android and promo OCAndroid
MI8GK5:We need a speaker; volunteer or nominate-someone by an event comment here
MI8GLW: 1600- "Lab 2..: Setting up your Dev environment and making it all work." aka a lab where attendees can try out what they have learned from the lecture.
MI8I77: 1700- "Wrap up and Mingle"
MI8I7V: 1800- end
MI9YQL: Gives the big picture in full detail of everything happening.
MI9Z1V: subsets can be extracted from this for others, but planners & presenters need 1 place to turn for the full details.
MI9YTW: Details should be put here 1st else collected from various discussions.
MI9WFH: "Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM" Miles emails Destiny & Bill "you are my only hope" about being & getting Android speakers "We need one of you guys to do a lecture on how to write a simple Android app which communicates with an API."
"Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:27 AM" Destiny replies saying "MHY46V: Clever idea & nice work!" and "MHY47M: Note like most all writings, this really should be handled via posting, not email, per rulehttp://1.JotHere.com/3975#MHEYMV;so let's get it into posting(s) ASAP:" and telling how to create an event post on OCAndroid.
MI8I2R: cut Miles's text "If you are interested, please email me right away." and "Call me" and "send me an email if you have questions." and his private contacts (cell & email address) as all this violates our policy to foremost communicate via post and especially not post private contacts - read that & the containing sections so to avoid this again (2nd time I'm pointing this policy out to you), especially important to know with being an organizer.
MI8H1G: renamed & retropiced from "Android Bootcamp" to "StartupWeekend.Org Bootcamp"
MI8H0E: Rewrote description into a logical structure including events it this series & the agenda for this event.
MI8GZY:Changed venue name from "1 University Dr,Orange,Ca" to the actual name "Chapman University"; added "Beckman Hall 106" from the main listing.
MI8HQE: I've added the end-time: 6:00pm (from ur main link)
MI9X5L: Repeat frequency
MI9X6R: Meetup.com bug: won't allow me to set one here perhaps because this event isn't announced or because it was created by SUGGEST an event.
MI9X82: Not specified in sources; Miles, what is it estimated to be?
MIA41O: Set to 4th Sunday every 6mo.
MI9XQ0: Short-URL: put "http://meetu.ps/2FwPlFR-does not work, prob since not announced"; this seems another Meetup.com bug with events created via SUGGEST.
MI8INF: Rid Miles' constructions "join your meetup group and attend your future meetups" as Miles is also a member indeed here an upcoming group leader, so it should be "our meetup group" or just "OCAndroid".
MI93BC: merged in agenda from main listing with that taking priority esp as far as time of events.
MI94J9: Linked the title's keywoards; small research into event background including adding note.
MIA0ZN: "2/15/13" SMS Miles "Me:I'll be giving u a revised listing4 ur Startup event later today, taking me ~6hrs work; in meantime, pls read&internalize "via-posting" http://1.JotHere.com/3975#MHEYMV +,as time,the other stuff on that pg,most all key 4u esp as an upcoming leader (esp. since on ur listing u again encouraged emailing&calling).11:15 AM"
MI9XVL:Due to the last 2 Meetup.com bugs, copy this SUGGESTed event post to an actual post?
MIAAPQ: added "MIA9WE" & "MIAAEZ: Who's organizing?" & "MIAAST" & subs; add Miles as an attendee; small improvements; pst2013.02.15Fri1644.
MIAHJK: set title to(StartupWeekend.Org Bootcamp of US.CA.Orange_County #1) including state, country, and series #; fixed "GDC" typo in MIAA9U; in MDMN8M, added missing-sizing <ol style="font-size: small;">.
ML81DT: got pisser new Meetup error q(Sorry, there is a limit of six questions per Meetup.) and unfortunately one person (Greg Stringer) had answered ~all 8 Qs, so archived answers to ML81GG(_HTML_Chrome).htm and for now cut the last 2 Qs; pst2013.04.13Sat1837.
MHTKT6: Unlike most other event re-listings, event info, including stuff all attendees need to know, is minimally copied and/or repeated here, so mostly NOT here as instead here is link to the official source (and, for those not granted access to that, a link to a recent full copy of it) --all intentionally, to(1st) insure all readers of this re-listing get the latest, official unabridged, complete news direct from the main people & group hosting this event (relistings that copy and/or repeat then have the problems of the telephone game) plus know who the source is, and (2nd) minimize the work to create the re-listing and especially to keep it matching the source & complete.
MUM5BE: updated MI9XLB as noted there; pst2013.10.13Sun0839.
Currently this is scheduled apparently-firmly for 2013.02.24Sun1000-1800 and "Room is already booked." and in-depth topic advertised and "has 20 registrants already" BUT with 2+ key problems *according to promoter & organizer Miles http://meetup.com/OCA... his 1st & most-official listing https://plus.google.co... *Key problems include: **no speakers found for at least 1/2 of it (the Android part) where Miles invites OCAndroid leaders I & Bill saying "you are my only hope" but with little heads up including: **This date directly conflicts with 2013.02.22-24 SCALE11x http://meetup.com/OCA... which is, that weekend, the leading & featured event of OCAndroid like probably most of SoCal's programmers.
What was the thought in putting this on 2013.02.24Sun? As that has serious probs: *(1)Directly conflicts w/SoCal's seemingly biggest programming conferences: 2013.02.22-24 SCALE11x ***which OCAndroid is listing &has booth@ http://meetup.com/OCA... -already w/9+ RSVPed YES(ironically including Miles) b4 even emailed out to our mbrs, consequently: ***all them&more can't go to this bootcamp,else at best wd hv probs going, incl: ***the OCAndroid ldrs Miles invited to speak here,me&Bill,saying"you are my only hope",naturally we can't speak then ***the bootcamp wd pull away OCAndroid mbrs&other local coders fr this 1x/yr SCALE which they likely sd be attending! *(2)Not enough time(16days,now only 9)2find speakers&develop presentations&properly advertise **Consequently I DONT WANT THIS HELD WHERE IT WD CONFLICT WITH SCALE, incl: ***if on conflicting dates,until until all SCALE arrangements done(may take till Feb22),I no want it advertised.
*Most seriously, what was the thought in advertising this as a firm date & booking the room, esp before confirming speakers? --as that creates some serious problems: **Effectively all OCAndroid leaders are tied up preparing for going to SCALE11x http://meetup.com/OCA... ***I personally have spent >1day having to stop &work on this event when huge pressure is on me to get ready SCALE11x and other events already long planned. **I'm having problems with Google getting my G+ account http://1.JotHere.com/... . *For ambitious events promising an in depth tech presentation, pls FIRST get the speakers confirmed, THEN pick the date (esp according to them), THEN book the room, and only THEN advertise the date as firm! **Consequently, I request picking a date >1mo from now and listing it as TENTATIVE until all those other things (all speakers & venue) can be booked for it. Ur thoughts?
I didn't mean for you to devote so much time to this. I apologize for that. Please don't devote another minute to this topic. I'll be at SCALE on Friday to man the booth. Thank you so much for your time.
"I didn't mean for you to devote so much time to this." *Thanks for noticing & saying! :-) I would guess u didn't me spending so much time, but: **It was then urgent by the date u picked & got many RSVP YESes to **the changes I made were mostly key, and 1 change required another (complex) **most important I want to show our appreciation to a member showing leadership initiative, esp in the non-technical as organizing events & gathering members. Seemingly like many tech Meetups, OCAnroid very rarely gets such members, so when it happens, esp on its own, I want to show appreciation to that person. But yes it was a huge (nearly 2 days) of time. *"I apologize for that." No, u don't need to as u didn't ask me to do this work! -it's for u. Just appreciate & try to follow all the good directives I've come across & developed from 8yrs of community leadership esp on Meetup.
*"I'll be at SCALE on Friday to man the booth." -Outstanding! :-) *"Please don't devote another minute to this topic." **Thx but that's not a real option as a replacement date for this must be picked ***as Meetup ****wont't allow further editing once start date hit ****doesn't allow un-picking of a date ****can't hide an event once shared (only cancel&replace that creates a mess: more dups & event conversation split & unmovable) ***so the workaround used on Meetup & most calendaring systems is to give a date but then in the description highlight that the date is not firm & ideally tell why&how much (what to do here) ***so, as I directed http://meetup.com/OCA... including "insuring not to loose any content", pls restore here ur earlier pts u made here(all good) but then deleted(to move) so we can proceed, or else I'll restore them fr backup quoting u but that's not as good. Thx.
Per my prior comment saying "as Meetup.." (see it), now <2hrs before this scheduled start time 2013.02.24Sun1000, per main host's cmt https://plus.google.co... saying this event "will most likely be postponed by 6-8 weeks", well as explaiend Meetup needs a single date for an event (not a range), so I took the average 7 weeks and moved this listing by that, now I moved the start date to then, "Sunday, April 14, 2013" --note then THIS IS +/-~1 WEEK.
cmt1of2: 2 emails which should have been posted on this thread instead of emailed per http://1.JotHere.com/... (messages should generally just be used to remind to reply to posts): *(=ML80ZV(On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 13:13 -0400, Meetup wrote: > Meetup Message from: Michael > Martel, of Laguna Niguel;.. > > For tomorrow it is still going on correct? It only has rsvps so im > just curious )ML80ZV=)
cmt2of2: *(=ML810D( From: Martin Martinez <[masked]> Date: Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:44 AM Subject: Re: Michael Martel sent you a message: tomorrow To: [masked] Cc: [Destiny] <[masked]>, Bill Zwicky <[masked]>
I do not know.
For some reason I was under the impression OCANDROID member Miles Pickens was involved but he has not responded to a similar inquiry I sent him earlier in the week on Meetup.
I too am concerned that not enough Meetup RSVPs to justify a large venue. I could not find the event listed on: http://orangecounty.s...
I did find an old Tweet from last year of Miles mentioning an event. I don't use Twitter but you might try him at: @MilesPickens
*Yes, specifically because: **The sponsoring group GDC OC's posts https://plus.google.co... make no further mention of this event series other than (the 1st scheduling "Sun, Feb 24, 10:00 AM - 6:00 PM" https://plus.google.co... ) being canceled "but it will most likely be postponed by 6-8 weeks" **It's now 6 weeks but I and seemingly no one here is has heard, for several weeks, from Miles Pickens (the GDC OC Organizer & the event-originator), including he's not replying to these, comments on this here event listing *So this listing I **postponed from 2013.04.14(Sun#2,tomorrow) to ~2 months later specifically 2014.06.09(Sun#2) **stopped its repeating on our calendar **deleted all upcoming active repeats (only http://meetup.com/OCA... ) *Miles, we await your Reply comments here especially as your plans for his ever actually happening.
I just noticed Michael M. wrote here in cmt http://meetup.com/OCA... wrote "if not i'll remove my rsvp." -no: *IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO ATTEND THIS (OR ANY MEETUP EVENT), RSVP YES --YES, EVEN IF THE DETAILS HAVE NOT BEEN NAILED DOWN OR IF IT'S NOT CERTAIN IT WILL EVEN HAPPEN. This will insure you get notified of updates. And no worry about being a NO-SHOW as if properly managed the event (w/ all RSVPs) will just get postponed until it happens or until it's canceled.
Based on Miles the originator of this apparently vanishing (on us, & on the OC GDC he heads & where he originated it) http://meetup.com/OCA... , I'm changing the still tentative date on this from today “Sunday, June 9, 2013” (clearly unrealistic) to 4 months from now (2x the delay of last time, so exponential delay ;-), so 2013.10.13Sun. Hopefully by then, if desire for this, someone steps up & takes the lead on creating this.
Since no one has yet stepped up to LEAD THIS OR FIND US A LEADER HERE (see my post just now http://meetup.com/OCA... ), at about tonight midnight, I'm changing the tentative date for this from from tomorrow “Sunday[#2], October 13, 2013” to 8 months from now (2x the delay of last time, so exponential delay ;-), so to 2014.06.08Sun. So become or help find us a leader for this! Plus once we found one, we can have this cool event sooner :-)
*Those updates (8 mo delay of this -until leader volunteers). I just finished making in the official event description, noted in its history items MUM44K & MUM5BE. *As was missing here, This thread's URL: http://meetup.com/OCA...
*If anyone wants to step up to the plate and make this event happen, Reply here. *In the meantime, no one has to wait for this to get Android training, and great training at that: **In less than 1 month, we'll be offering, as we often do, great Android training for free as part of our regular main meetings (which are currently just $5 to attend -u can't beat that for in-person syllabus training); and this is proven training –for instance, members (who then became leaders) Bill & Donna both did this training then landed professional paid Android programming jobs. So RSVP YES now for our Main meetings now, starting as soon as our next one at http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve... .
*We've gotten: **Notable interest: 8 RSVPs YES and only 1 RSVP NO, and **some nice enthusiastic comments here as, as quote: ***alex richter: Looking forward to this meetup! ***Eddie Rangel:.. I'm definitely looking forward to this event.. *However **As alerted here months ago, the original proposer Miles http://meetup.com/OCA... I still haven't heard from since then (months) **biggest concern, we've gotten no one saying they'll step up & lead this. *So, if you want this to happen: **Please step up (reply here) to lead this else find us a leader here. **Show you're enthusiasm where it really matters (if you haven't already) and RSVP, especially YES for our Main Meetups, as our next one http://meetup.com/OCA... (currently THIS MONDAY 5:30pm) --showing up at our Main Mtgs you get a lot plus definitely helps get these extra events happening.
“free[ online] stanford comp sci class called "Startup engineering"” -seems a possible alternative/addition to this event series *See about it where I just learned about it at http://meetup.com/Node-JS-OC/ev... and reply there else here. *Also see our quality programmer training at our regular monthly meetings, presented here at http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve...
Thanks to OCAndroid member Miles Pickens http://OCAndroid/members/379217... for taking the initiative to start founding & organizing this event including for posting the 1st draft on OCAndroid! Provided Miles cooperates with us OCAndroid leaders, via interactively posting here per Meetup groups' std for posting http://1.JotHere.com/3975#MHEYM... , so to (1) schedule this so it won't conflict with our already-scheduled events (as our annual 2013.02.22-24 SCALE11x http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve... ) & allow adequate prep time for this (see & reply-in WHEN http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve... ) and (2) work out with us the other details to work out mentioned here on this page (such as point MI94AX: making this official w/ http://StartupWeekend.Org to use thier name), OCAndroid will be quite delighted to help secure him speakers for this+advertise this to our 100s of mbrs,mostly local Andorid developers, many of whom would then be quite interested.
*It's the 2x-rescheduled day of but still no more posts on this by its originator&lead Miles -since after announcing here he then canceled it on his GDC https://plus.google.co... saying there“Feb 16, 20131 Hi guys, this event had been cancelled due to limited time to prepare. We will still run a bootcamp event but it will most likely be postponed by 6-8 weeks.” *-but that 15 weeks ago!, &I not heard from Miles since 2013.03.03(at his GDG), inclhe's not responded to msgs, &since 2013.04.07 https://plus.google.co... seems he made no post in the GDG he runs (from which this event came). *So I'm a bit miffed after he dreamed up&announced this event so drummed up many members interest&RSVP(8 YESes here&14 on GDG),&so my also investing ~7hrs insuring a well-worked out listing for all, he then vanished on everyone(on OCAndroid,&on his OC GDG he heads). Respecting ur associates&mbrs requires being dependable.
Bill Zwicky http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem... ATTENDANCE&REVIEW OF THIS EVENT. *As he is OCAndroid leader #2, I just added him to the RSVP YES list so he would be informed of the discussion (since he hadn't followed up on doing this himself per my request & Martin's inquiry on it), as, even he never actually attends (though it would seem it would well match him), so he will be informed of the event planning discussion here, especially as a member (leader Martin) has already started contacting him on this (see http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/eve... ) apparently per his group title. *Bill, please **catch up by skimming the description & discussion here, especially the most recent, and **Reply to this thread with your actual likeness of attending.
Destiny http://meetup.com/OCAndroid/mem... ATTENDANCE&REVIEW OF THIS EVENT. *~"2/15/13" I mostly created this re-listing, which is actually now much more complete than Miles original source. *I'll attend esp being an organizer of this.
These comments appreciated but this Q & matter should be posted under the existing WHEN thread http://meetup.com/OCA... per group standards (max 1 thread per topic/subject http://1.JotHere.com/... , please read & follow esp as it's impossible to well-fix after-the-fact) and (the WHEN thread http://1.JotHere.com/... ); PLEASE REDIRECT THIS THREAD CONVERSATION TO THERE.
To Martin especially, PLEASE NO MORE POSTS ON THIS THREAD (per my prior comment here saying) "PLEASE REDIRECT THIS THREAD CONVERSATION TO" "the existing WHEN thread http://meetup.com/OCA... " and explaining why (Martin especially, please read & follow my prior comment on this this thread especially the links explaining why).
Note Meetup event comments are now threaded 2 levels, It's is very useful and important to use this feature esp given it's not just organizers reading this but all perspective attendees, indeed the description+comments is whats advertised to the world. So: *when u want to reply to cmt,click "Reply" on it&DON'T add another top-level cmt. *If the topic is new, consider creating the topic name as cmt, then reply to that. *esp important that common organizer-mostly topics as When-discussion fall under a thread for that so the avg possible-attendee can skip. *Stay on the thread's topic, avoid repeating, & word carefully *Posts CAN'T be moved once posted;so shoot to post it right the 1st time else carefully&quickly repost correctly then delete ur original posts,insuring not to loose any content. *To get my cmts all neat & right, I often use an offline text editor to compose my collection of comments to post then post the bunch of them at once.
Miles, in ur present 3 comments (which you just posted, and which u can ideally now neaten up) *u repeat "..be associated with StartupWeekend.org..": combine. More seriously, *ur 2.5 new comments here on When should be under the When thread http://meetup.com/OCA... -click "Reply" there &put them there as explained. *Ur comment http://meetup.com/OCA... **insure it doesn't significantly repeat anything in the description, esp the goals **the goals talk (most of it) should be under a thread for that (use the 1 I just created: http://meetup.com/OCA... ) **the when talk should be under the "When" thread -put that there.
To all,my above dirs say "..*Posts CAN'T be moved once posted;so shoot to post it right the 1st time else carefully&QUICKLY repost correctly THEN delete ur original posts,insuring NOT TO LOOSE ANY CONTENT. .."(caps added) -tho I was worried of giving "delete"option 4fear of abuse,&indeed: *A user(who it is is NOT important) posted Meetup event cmts which were all good pts but simply in the wrong places,why then I wrote this *but seeing my dirs indeed b4 anyone else had,s/he DIDNT repost,just deleted all her/his originals(tho promises2repost,but the next day still hadnt) **that is effectively abusing rather than following my dirs(the new words in caps) **so instead makes things worse,as now that content lost,indeed all of it,incl key very relevant responses which determined my next move **&s/he's well trained&skilled in IT,so sadly it all makes me doubt if users sd ever be encouraged&allowed to delete their content -I hear http://SlashDot.Org notably doesn't allow it.
+since it comes up, I now add to my (thread top comment) dirs: *Whenever the original posts were seen else there was reasonable chance they were, then the original content must be quoted in the repost(s) unaltered including date&time it was originally said, though one can after add ADDITIONAL commentary say to correct & clarify the original, but by this point (after it reasonably could have been seen or was) not allowed is not showing all of what was originally said & when.
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