It is NOT the matter of "be silent and not expressing your point of view" but it is a matter of MOVING FORWARD :D
Simple and easy, that is all about it.
I have met Mr. Zulfikar personally and yes, it was for one hour or less but I can tell he loves Linux and ready to help, etc so let's give him a change.
This is a community where everyone can contribute whenever possible and let's all remember this is unpaid job for all of us, no one will come and give us money for what we do. We do this because WE DO LOVE IT and therefore, we should FORGET the past and carry on.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Ragesh <[address removed]> wrote:
As I told earlier, I am expressing my views on the matter.. finally its a community and decision should be taken by all of us unanimously and I will always abide to it as long as I am in the community; I have no animosity against Mr. Zulfikar, personally I dont even know him, I just wanted to remind the past. I would say it was non-responsive and irresponsible manner of doing things who claimed of being the head of a community for 1 year or more and totally ignored the community and its members. I would have appreciated at least if he had responded before the council's interference in the matter.
I believe every member has his/her rights to express his thoughts on any matter in the community and I did the same and If its not the case then please let me know, then I may keep silence.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Toki Tahmid <[address removed]> wrote:
Can we please give it a rest on criticizing Mr Zulfiqar's past (non-)actions or whatever? I understand you guys don't like it, but just talking against him when he's cooperating with us isn't going to help.
So please, calm the hell down and realize how unproductive it is. I repeat-animosity towards him or anyone else is going to help. At all.
On 31 October[masked]:13, Ragesh <[address removed]> wrote:
I totally agree with Ahmad Juma's thoughts. Its a little difficult for me to digest the sudden change in Zulfikar's viewpoints and becoming so responsive in the group after 1 year of being silent. Just want to say "Some damages are irreparable" and we need members who willingly want to be one and not by force.. because then it becomes so unreal ! We might lose the excitement and the oneness in the community. Just my thoughts.. no offence.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Toki Tahmid <[address removed]> wrote:
No, I'm not saying you were wrong (I have not bothered considering it), but I was just curious about how the things were done.
Personally. I don't care who was right or wrong. Let's move on folks.
On 31 October[masked]:23, Ahmad Juma <[address removed]> wrote:
Your announcing group within a group?
if you accept the past mistakes you should come up and apologize for personalizing the ae-loco group.
I think Ubuntu higher council have pushed you to come public...!!! You have not been the open person since we started some argument with you.
So do you want us to Join you or you want to work together as a team?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Zulfiqar Ali Khan <[address removed]> wrote:
We are learning form our mistakes and moving ahead. The meetings
were never private just never announced. It was spread with word
of mouth and getting the like minded people to come and join us,
some left some stayed back. This is how it was going on.
Well we are now going public and would not get into an argument
what went wrong and how and when, rather move ahead. We are very
open as we have been in the past for anyone to come join us.
Lets hope this is for the better and the ae-loco flourish even
more than ever.
Zulfiqar Ali Khan
On 10/31/12 6:09 PM, Toki Tahmid wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply. If I may ask, how did
anyone join the group if the meetups were private?
Looking for to the website and working together, thanks
On 31 October[masked]:54,
Zulfiqar Ali Khan <[address removed]>
We were never announcing our meeting in
the past. This is the first time we have
gone public with it. For the rest please
wait for the website to come online and
you will get most of your answers soon. We
have not yet decided on the venue till now
but as in the past might be Pavilion. I
will confirm this tonight when I will send
an invite to your group.
Zulfiqar Ali Khan
On 10/31/12 5:48 PM, Toki Tahmid wrote:
Where exactly were you
announcing the meetings? And can
you also detail the activities you
have done so far, and your
schedule for future events?
We'd very much like to
October[masked]:43, Zulfiqar Ali
Khan <[address removed]>
As per the councils
wishes we are going
public with our
activities now. I will
send an "official"
Emirates-Loco group as
tonight and you are
all welcome to come
On the 4th we are
having our regular
meetup which usually
happens on monthly
basis. We are also in
the process of putting
up a website which
will list all over
I hope this will bring
more transparency to
our activities and
will encourage others
to join us in
promoting ubuntu in a
Zulfiqar Ali Khan
On 10/31/12 3:49 PM,
Neil Oosthuizen wrote:
16:43, Waleed Jameel
Pavilion is good & central, easy parking,
On Tue, Oct
30, 2012 at
Khan <[address removed]>
Thank you guys
support it was
a great work
session and we
lot. We will
meet on the
4th Nov as
I will send
the invite to
forums to come
and join us.
the invites to
and lets makes
it a success.
Should we meet
like last time
or look for
As there has been
several of us not in
the loop could you
perhaps give some info
on this meetup?
Regards and thanks
PS - Also juggling to
many mailing lists at
something that we will
need to address...
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