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North Texas Objectivist Society (NTOS) Message Board › Our group has a post to it on the main page -- Organizer has removed Muruga

Our group has a post to it on the main page -- Organizer has removed Murugan/"KrisRamPro" from our local group

A former member
Post #: 70

It may not be the best post in the world. I KNOW IT IS NOT. Nonetheless it has our name out there. Read it if you dare.
This is my and Todd's old buddy. Krisrampro is the guy that wrote the post. I think he is like 250 years old. Well he says he is. He is telling Todd how it works, and that A is A. Poor Tood I feel for you man.



I edited the the title of your initial posting to make this thread more relevant to my recent action. I didn't want to waste another discussion thread heading on the guy. See my post below for explanation.
Old T.
Group Organizer
Dallas, TX
Post #: 60
Lest I be accused of having no standards for membership in our group, I have asked Murugan a.k.a. "KrisRamPro" to leave us alone.

Against my better judgment and against Jamie's Granpa's advice that you can't argue with someone who thinks he is divinely reincanated (paraphrasing), I did, however, feel obligated to at least try to explain to him why he was not welcome here, and in case he complained of my action to Meetup's management.

My e-mail exchange with him is reproduced below, but, as expected, he persists.

Accordingly, I am removing him as a member of our group, but I expect he will persist wherever he can, despite the fact that he is not welcome. So long as I am Organizer, I will periodically purge anything he might post to our local message boards.

I suggest that none of us ever makes any post in response to Murugan/"KrisRamPro" or any other name under which he might reappear. He will post 10 times the amount in response, which is mostly unintelligible, and don't forget Jamie's Granpa's advice -- it's useless.

Wishing he would "get another life" as soon as possible,

North Texas Objectivist Society

From Todd
Thursday, May 12, 2005

I see that you have joined the North Texas Objectivist Society
through I am writing you privately to save you
personal embarrassment.


More importantly, you are making numerous postings on the
Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board regarding your reincarnation
and Indian religion. Our local Meetup group is not interested
in your reincarnation or Indian religion. (Neither is the
Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board, nor the Mubai Ayn Rand Meetup

I am asking you to immediately withdraw from the North Texas
Objectivist Society. I am also asking you to stop posting on
the Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board, and even to withdraw from
the Mumbai Ayn Rand meetup.

Thank you,
North Texas Objectivist Society

From Murugan
Friday, May 13, 2005 (morning)
Hello Mr.Todd,

In some near future I might even come and attend your meetups that is unless you object to it!I will not come if I am not welcome!And I may not use the Texas message board either unless any member including you asks me to respond to any particular query.I just had this one meetup group on my name. So I decided to have another one.That is all.

And this is an I am not posting anything about the Indian religion anywhere. If you do not agree with my ideas then I may well ask you if you agree with Ayn Rand's ideas.I am saying things in support of Ayn Rand and not anything against her.

Here is my word to you!
If you prove any of my ideas as being wrong or against
Ayn then I will immediately withdraw from the Texas Group.
You can meet me on the Ayn Message board or in the Texas board
or in a private mail as this one!
Thank You!

From Todd
Friday, May 13, 2005 (afternoon)


More importantly, Ayn Rand's writings and her philosophy
Objectivism do not include your belief in your own divine
reincarnation and do not include Indian religion. Your
postings on the Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board show that you
believe that you are more than 200 years old, having
reincarnated three times from Krishna (a Hindu god), Ram
(Ramakrishna, another Hindu god), and Prometheus (a Greek
god). Apparently, this is even the basis for your userid ?
KrisRamPro.? You have also posted links to­ showing pictures and touting Hindu
religion. (Two representative examples of your numerous
rantings on the Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board are copied
below for ready reference.)

You are off topic.

I have no interest in proving anything to you, which, based on
your imaginations of triple reincarnation, is probably
impossible, anyway. And I am not the only one who thinks so.
For example, Dean?s post (also copied below) suggested to you
that there is a difference between reality and your imagination.

I am asking you to immediately withdraw from the North Texas
Objectivist Society. I am also asking you to stop posting on
the Worldwide Ayn Rand Message Board, and even that you
withdraw from the Mumbai Ayn Rand meetup.

Please leave us alone.

Thank you,
North Texas Objectivist Society

Posted Apr 4, 2005 at 5:41 AM
Mumbai, IN
138th Post
But please don't make me work too hard for this!
After all I am 235 years old- [prometheus-35,ram-50,krishna-120
and myself-30] <laughing>
Well,I am only 30 years old in this birth but my wisdom levels
match that of a 235 years old!Isn't it? <smile>

Posted Apr 5, 2005 at 1:12 AM
Mumbai, IN
139th Post­

Posted Apr 20, 2005 at 8:40 AM
Dean Michael Gores
Armada, MI
14th Post
krisrampro: I just wanted to inform you that there is a
diference between reality and your immagination. It might be a
good idea for you to discover what is most likely true and what
is most likely false, and then re-create your knowledge base.


From Murugan
Friday, May 17, 2005

Hello Mr.Todd,
Please see the latest message which I have posted
on the Ayn Rand Message board.Meet me there hence forth.
Thank You!


In reviewing, I edited to correct "?" marks substituted for characters of extended character set.
A former member
Post #: 73

MANY, MANY THANKS TO YOU MY FRIEND. Well I agree with your standard fully. Also you pay for our space, therefore you choose who leaves or stays. GOOD CHOICE!!! If anyone ever needed being kicked out it was him. I also hope that he " GETS ANOTHER LIFE."

Greg L.
Addison, TX
Post #: 2
I didn't catch the entire exchange, but I certainly support Todd in his decision to perform the first 'excommunication'. Conversing with such individuals is much like banging one's head against a wall, which certainly isn't in anyone's rational self-interest.
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