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NPR Article re Jewish "Taliban" in Israel?

Old T.
OldToad
Group Organizer
Dallas, TX
Post #: 435
I saw this reference on Diana Hsieh's blog and thought others might find it interesting:

http://www.npr.org/te...­

-- Todd
Lathanar
Lathanar
Dallas, TX
Post #: 275
Hahaha, "I call that coercion of eroticism." I actually got into a rather long debate with someone on OO.net who would back that idea.

- Travis
A former member
Post #: 42
REVOLTING!!!!!!

Would somene expect a different conclusion from religion? Simply monsterous!
A former member
Post #: 203
From the article:

"Today in Israel, women go around sometimes as if they're at the beach," she said. "It's really very undignified and it's erotically stimulating and it's also just distracting. And that's a form of coercion -- I call that non-religious coercion. I call that coercion of eroticism. That's a much more serious problem: the creeping degradation of the public square."

So, does that make harassment a religious coercion? I'd say so, in this case, although I don't think one can say that such harassment always comes from the religious. There are non-religious folks out there who love to harass people, while claiming at the same time that they are not committing coercion.

But the claim of forcing eroticism onto someone because they might be distracted from their vows of celibacy or marriage? I could point out that these religious types have forsaken the world, but that is not enough for them, they want to force you to forsake it as well -- at least in their presence.

Now, this is the Dark Ages mentality.

If you want to forsake the world, then do so -- by not riding a bus and by not partaking in modern television, etc, etc. -- but leave the rest of us alone!

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Old T.
OldToad
Group Organizer
Dallas, TX
Post #: 438
On the other end of the spectrum, would a country based on Objectivist principles have any laws against public nudity?

-- Todd
Sherry
SherryTX
Plano, TX
Post #: 422
On the other end of the spectrum, would a country based on Objectivist principles have any laws against public nudity?

-- Todd

Oh my...that is a good question.
I would hope that people would take it upon themselves to perhaps realize it may not be in anyone's best interest to walk about with it all hanging out.
Scott C.
Scott_Connery
Dallas, TX
Post #: 8
I think that it is pretty clear the nudism would be legal in an Objectivist country. I can't imagine the semantic gymnastics you would have to do to claim that not wearing clothes is initiating force. As to whether or not it was popular, I doubt it.
Sherry
SherryTX
Plano, TX
Post #: 423
The cooking misshaps alone are something I think would prevent a lot of it.
Lathanar
Lathanar
Dallas, TX
Post #: 276
I think that it is pretty clear the nudism would be legal in an Objectivist country. I can't imagine the semantic gymnastics you would have to do to claim that not wearing clothes is initiating force. As to whether or not it was popular, I doubt it.

All you would have to do is twist a little what Rand said about pornography and it changes into a right not to be offended and you go from there.

- Travis
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