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  • Marianne

    I had some work come up this evening and won't be able to make it. See you guys soon!

    September 29, 2014

  • Jerry

    I'd be curious to know everyone's thoughts on this one...

    Miss a Payment? Good Luck Moving That Car

    "Ms. Bolender was three days behind on her monthly car payment. Her lender, C.A.G. Acceptance of Mesa, Ariz., remotely activated a device in her car’s dashboard that prevented her car from starting. Before she could get back on the road, she had to pay more than $389, money she did not have that morning in March."

    1 · September 25, 2014

    • Jason

      "Mr. Vead says that first, he tries reaching a delinquent borrower on the phone or in person. Then, only after at least 30 days of missed payments, he typically shuts down cars when they are parked at the borrower’s house or workplace. If there is an emergency, he says, he will turn a car back on." Some companies are using it responsibly. If the high risk borrowers a) consent to the surveillance and shutdowns and b) the companies are responsible, that business strategy is less controversial.

      September 25, 2014

    • TomG

      Done with the right safeguards it might be acceptable. There is a lot of room for abuse. A separate discussion, but the whole idea of debt is interesting. 200 years ago the US outlawed debtor's prisons. But they are making something of a comeback when it comes to owing the govt. money:­

      September 29, 2014

  • TomG

    Found this interesting in the latest Economist - Surveillance is the advertising industry’s new business model:

    September 29, 2014

  • Zack G.

    [I have a work thing on Monday evening this week, so I won't be at Ockham's--sorry I'll miss this discussion! See you all next week!]

    September 28, 2014

    • Molly

      Enjoy your event and we will see you next week!

      September 28, 2014

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