Re: [DallasVegGardeners] The Group goes on!

From: Julia L.
Sent on: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:33 PM
Well, Ron, your discount idea sounds like a winner. I think we can do that through sponsorships.I see that you have a rain barrel installation business. Would you like to be a sponsor for the group, and give some discounts? 

I'm sure that your experience in gardening will be very useful to the group. Would you like to teach a class on veggie gardening in blackland soils?

Since you know that I am an "agricultural academic", I do not appreciate the shot, and I will not respond to your (crap) statement. Let's start out on good terms, shall we?


From: Ron McCann <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Thursday, October 11,[masked]:18 PM
Subject: Re: [DallasVegGardeners] The Group goes on!

I suggest that the group leverage its numbers to acquire deals and discounts.  Once upon a time (not that long ago) one could purchase a flat of 6 seedlings for the price of 2 (or less) today.  I think that if we focus on product(s) and on group buying power (i.e. volume), we might acquire some significant cost reductions.  Maybe a committee should be organized?
I have gardened veggies in this area for 30 years.  Along the way I learned some things.  When this area was settled the color of soil was considered an indicator of quality, the darker the better.  Our black soil was considered black gold and there was actually a land rush.  They were wrong about the soil.  Our black soil is an alkaline muck that hardens to near rock when it dries.  The settlers didn’t help.  They used slaves to grow cotton.  Cotton is particularly hard on soil and it leached what little nutrients there was, then they put down fertilizers that built up salts. 
With urban sprawl, many (if not most) residences and/or properties in this area are on top the farms.  Combined with farming damage, construction contamination, runoff, smog and drought, it should not be surprising that this area is not particularly prone to good veggie growth.  However, in my opinion, there is nothing better than a home grown tomato, especially compared to the mushy, tasteless, mutated hybrids sold at grocery stores.  I thank agricultural academics for such perfectly formulated hybrids (crap), but I digress. 
The point of this message is that growing veggies successfully is a considerable challenge and prices have really escalated.  Although growing veggies is highly desirable, one must provide extra effort and pay premium for virtually every square millimeter of fruit.  So I suggest that we organize and pursue group/volume procurement possibilities.


On 10/10/[masked]:04 PM, Julia Lewis wrote:
Thank you Nina. That sounds wonderful!

From: Nina <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10,[masked]:30 PM
Subject: RE: [DallasVegGardeners] The Group goes on!

Hello Julia,
How wonderful! Thank you for offering your time and expertise.
I grew up on a different continent so I myself struggle with the weather and timing of things as well as soil amendments. I am slowly getting up to speed but my garden’s yield was pitiful compare to the effort this past summer.
 
I am mostly interested in sustainable gardening. I stay away from chemicals and try all things natural.
 
I am also a teacher  in a small school in Fairview (www.centerforlivingethics.org) where we garden with kids. If you ever need a “test garden” you all would be more than welcome to use it. We have several plots: a circular and a spiral garden and planted a lot of fruit trees this past spring. We all are just amateurs and we are learning through trial and error as well.
 
 
Nina Marcussen
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From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Julia Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 3:02 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [DallasVegGardeners] The Group goes on!
 
I have agreed to be the organizer of this group. However, I've not been to any meetings yet :)).
Please let me know the kind of meetings that you would like to attend.
A little about me:  I live in McKinney. I have a Ph.D. in Horticultural Science from North Carolina State University, and was Assistant Professor of Horticulture for Oklahoma State University for 5 years. I've trained Master Gardeners in Oklahoma, and was the state's Small Fruit Specialist (berries, grapes, and wine). That's been some time ago, so I am not up on some of the latest things, but I love to learn!
I have a back yard garden, mostly in containers. It's been suffering a bit of neglect due to a family health crisis, so it doesn't look great right now.
I am most interested in seed exchanges and ways to cope with the extreme summer weather we've been having.
I would love to hear from some of you. Also, if any of you have suggestions for meetups, information you would like to share, etc., please be sure to communicate!
Julia Whitworth Lewis
P.S. If you want to see some of my publications, you can search Julia Whitworth horticulture




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