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Why Do People Try to Control Others?

  • Mar 12, 2014 · 6:15 PM

Join us as we discuss the nature of control and controlling others, including (but not limited to) contradictions in ethical viewpoints; the psychology of control; the nature of ethical values and their relationship to beliefs and ethical norms; and much, much more!

The following questions will be asked at this Meetup:

>For the purposes of this discussion, what do we mean by "control"?

>How do emotions and reason affect issues of control?

>Where does "control" originate come from (i.e., the source of) and why does it matter to know that?

>What does the issue of personal "boundaries" and “power” have to do with control? What is the relationship between ethics and issues of control?

>What is the correlation between politics (i.e., "rights") and control? (Does "choice" in people's lives end in the bedroom, at the altar [including photographs and wedding-cake issues], or having a marijuana joint?)

>How does control and authoritarian power reveal itself in media and art?

>Conclusion: After all is said and done, Why Do People Try to Control Others? 

This Meetup is at a quiet restaurant, and no purchase is necessary. (Though, please keep in mind that the owner is providing us with a FREE, quiet venue for us to conduct our Meetup and a small [or large] purchase on your part as a token of thanks is greatly appreciated.) Socializing will begin at 6:15pm, individual member introductions and initial comments on the topic start at 6:45pm, with the discussion portion beginning around 1pm, and the conclusion aspect (i.e., individual member's final comments on the topic) at approximately 8:45pm.

NOTE: At the beginning of the discussion portion of the Meetup, the moderator will ask for cooperation (i.e. for members to be on their best behavior and showing the utmost respect for one another) from all participants regarding member conduct during the discussion. Most specifically, when the moderator asks a particular question of the group (see this Meetup's questions listed above), it is simply for the purpose of moving the discussion forward for the purposes of 1)attempting to have a well-rounded conversation that adequately covers the topic in the time available, and 2)to help facilitate each individual member arriving at some type of answer/conclusion, based on the discussion, by the end of the Meetup.

Past experience with our discussions has repeatedly shown that when members ignore topic-related question(s) to go off on their own soapboxes, it typically results (with few exceptions) in an unfocused, purposeless, rudderless, conversational free-for-all; which greatly reduces the quality of the discussion for most participants (based on the past feedback we've received over the years). Participants who have a particular agenda for how the Meetup will progress (or not progress), including introducing (or continually re-introducing) frequent tangents that have absolutely nothing to do with any aspect of the topic at hand (and the relevant questions posed above) are 100% empowered to schedule their own Meetups some other time, and conduct their own discussions (promoted on this website) at their convenience. (Please note that most members attend a particular Meetup to generally discuss the topic promoted for that day/time on the website, and not for some other reason.)

Hence, a member's attendance at this particular Meetup is a de facto agreement (on his/her part) that the discussion will follow the simple format outlined above, via each question introduced at the time designated by the moderator. After a question is asked, the conversation will be an open, free-flowing one amongst the participants, generally focused around that particular question. (Though, please keep your answers short and give others a chance to speak. Also, please no side conversations while others are trying to speak - it's very distracting to the discussion...) Other ancillary questions may come up during the course of the discussion that we will talk about, but the primary focus of attention for the group at this particular Meetup will be on each of the questions listed above; as a means to not get stuck on one aspect of the topic, as well as to tie together, during the course of the discussion, how each question is philosophically correlated with one another.

If there is particular question/aspect you feel is essential to understanding the topic at hand, that has been left off the list above, please contact the event moderator/host to voice your concern.

 

 

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  • Larry

    The discussion and subject flow goes well; however, it would be good to keep control of time used for rebuttals and introductions, as stated to 1-3 minutes.

    March 12, 2014

  • Steve

    Another turnout of 20 people, which can have its challenges. My thanks to everyone for their insights, and for putting up with some of the issues inevitable with trying to conduct a discussion with that many voices.

    March 12, 2014

  • Brent

    Running very late due to work issue...hoping to make it out for part of the meetup anyway.

    March 12, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    I have to cancel..dnt have the gas to go:<

    March 9, 2014

    • Steve

      This venue is right on the light rail line at University/Rural.

      March 9, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      I cldn't do that either..not enuff time..but I can't go even if I had the gas due to another med issue this time..hopefully next time things wnt be so complicated.

      March 10, 2014

  • JasonC

    When folks here read the title, do you reflexively and first think of the people doing the controlling as (1) others seeking to control you, (2) others seeking to control third parties, (3) you seeking to control others?

    If the term "control" is replaced by "help", does the expected "scan" of the phrase change? Additional trial substitutions - teach, direct, serve, follow, obey, rule, cooperate with, enlighten, lead, manage, be loyal to, keep faith with...

    Was George Orwell onto something or not?

    Do modern ideologies only use words for their emotional and political connotations of double plus good and bad, or with actual determinate content?

    Are the negative emotional connotation terms ever meant to be read as applying to the referrer himself in a self critical and self improving manner, or are they always other directed, creating an imaginary virtuous in-group in contrast to unethical and unspecified others?

    March 1, 2014

    • Sondra C.

      I love these. I'd also like to explore the difference between control and influence.

      March 8, 2014

  • JasonC

    Why are meet up question formats so often tendentious slams of third parties not around to explain themselves?

    February 28, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      I will explain myself at the meet up.

      March 5, 2014

  • john h.

    control as it relates to slavery?

    March 5, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    What kind've restaurant is this? Does anyone know what the prices run for a dinner?

    March 2, 2014

    • Steve

      Yelp.com lists the average meal price as being under $10. However, most of our members will not order anything, so don't let that under-$10 price tag dissuade you from attending this Meetup. http://www.yelp.com/b...­

      March 3, 2014

    • A former member
      A former member

      thanks

      March 5, 2014

  • john h.

    Is there a difference between 'control' & leadership?

    1 · February 28, 2014

20 went

  • Steve +8
    Co-Organizer,
    Event Host
  • Stephen +1
  • Sondra C. +1
    Philosopher
  • A former member
  • A former member
  • A former member
  • A former member
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