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When is the Idea of God True?

Please join us for a mind-boggling, blockbusting discussion on the "Idea of God" and how we can know when it is true (or not).  With about 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of people in the world believing in the "idea of god" in some significant way (whether it's religiously, politically, romantically, scholarly, medically, etc., etc., etc.), including the most vociferous "skeptics," can we ever know (or not know) what is true about the "idea of god" (and/or what isn't)? 

At this Meetup, we will discuss the inexorable relationship between psychology and philosophy. We will NOT be focusing on the external minutia of various belief systems (such as the endless [and fruitless] argument of trying to prove or disprove or disprove the existence of God), instead, we'll be discussing the underlying, root psychology of belief systems, in general, and the relationship (or lack of) with philosophy. 



The following questions will be asked of the group at this Meetup: >For the purposes of this discussion, what do we mean by the "idea of god"?>What is the difference between psychological "needs" and "neediness"? >How does philosophy prove or disprove the existence of the idea of god? >Conclusion: When all is said and done, "When is the Idea of God True?"

This Meetup is at a quiet restaurant, and no purchase is necessary. (Though, please keep in mind that the owner is providing a FREE, quiet venue for us to conduct our Meetup and a small purchase on your part as a show of thanks is greatly appreciated.) Socializing will begin at 12pm, the discussion around 12:45pm, and the conclusion (i.e., final remarks) at approximately 2:45pm.

NOTE: At the beginning of the discussion portion of the Meetup, the moderator will ask for cooperation (i.e. being on one's best behavior and showing the utmost respect for others) from all participants regarding member conduct during the discussion. Specifically, when the moderator asks a question of the group (see this Meetup's questions listed above), it is for purpose of moving the discussion in that particular direction to 1)have a well-rounded conversation that adequately covers the topic in the time available, and 2)to help facilitate each member arriving at some type of answer/conclusion, based on the discussion, by the end of the Meetup. Past experience has shown that when members ignore the moderator's question(s) to go off on their own soapboxes, it leads to a purposeless, rudderless, conversational free-for-all; which greatly reduces the quality of the discussion for all participants. (Members who have an agenda for how the Meetup will progress (or not progress), including introducing [or continually re-introducing] frequent tangents that have nothing to do any aspect of the topic at hand [which are introduced via the questions posited above] are free to schedule their own Meetups on this website.

A member's attendance at this Meetup is a de facto agreement (on his/her part) that the discussion will follow the simple format outlined above, via each question introduced at the time designated by the moderator. After a question is asked, the conversation will be a free-flowing one focused around that particular question. (Though, please keep your answers short and give others a chance to speak. Also, please no side conversations while others are trying to speak - it's very distracting...) Other ancillary questions may come up during the course of the discussion that we will talk about, but the group will primarily focus its attention on the questions asked above; as well as try to tie together how each question is correlated with one another.

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  • Chris

    It was fun. Got a little scary for a while there in a heated side discussion.

    May 24, 2014

  • Chris

    Some asked about my book that I had brought in. It's entitled: "Why we believe in god(s)" By Andrew Thompson. His book is condensed into a video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg

    May 24, 2014

  • Steve

    If that was Brent on a little sleep, I'd like to see what pearls of wisdom he can elicit on a good night of sleep. Also, it was good to see future philosophers at this Meetup.

    3 · May 24, 2014

  • Scott C.

    A few words about the substitution fallacy as it pertains to faith and belief.
    http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Atheism_is_based_on_faith

    May 24, 2014

  • Scott C.

    1. When we are afraid of death, we create afterlives and reincarnation. 2. When we are lazy, we shirk our responsibility of working hard for the benefit of "humanity." Meaning, it's easier to pray about our problems and then feel good, thereby absolving ourselves of the responsibility of working harder for the betterment of humanity.

    3. When we are faced with the unknown, and we lack answers, we will jump to overly-simplistic conclusions as convenient ways to explain the unknown. And we feel better with any answers, even superstitious ones.

    May 24, 2014

  • Scott C.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology How do you know what you know?

    May 24, 2014

  • Scott C.

    Www.ironchariots.org

    May 24, 2014

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