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Apache Lake Paddle and Campout, Burnt Corral campground, Rain, some Sun Shine

  • Nov 23, 2013 · 7:00 AM

November 20th Update:  

Upon reading an update a few minutes ago and Norm's update link with increased rainfall amounts forecast for Friday and looking at radar in southern CA. I'm going to modify this to a Saturday morning - Sunday afternoon event when the rainfall should be tapering off. Don't you'all just love it when an early season pacific moist, but fairly warm storm system drops in :) That's what's happening. Good News, needed rain and a start of snowfall for a whitewater season :)

Moving the campout to the Main Burnt Corral Campground (Upper Burnt Corral closed)

Campsite with large Ramada shelter is here.  google earth .kmz file http://files.meetup.com/1673198/PaddleAZ%20Shelter%20from%20the%20storm.kmz

Saturday November 23 - Sunday November 24

Apache Lake,   Burnt Corral Campout and Paddle

Paddling / camping, fishing, wine drinking, tales of kayaking lore around the campfire.

 THIS EVENT IS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FIRST TIME PADDLERS  due to possible winds, rain and cooler temperatures

Apache lake,  Burnt Corral has been a popular destination with Paddle Arizona with great scenery, wildlife, camping along the shoreline, so we are doing it again.

Some members of Arizona Kayak Fishing will also be joining us.

Tonto daily pass is needed for day use and camping overnight at Upper Burnt Corral. One Tonto pass is good for 24 hours from the day and time you validate it.

DIRECTIONS TO  BURNT CORRAL CAMPGROUND AREA FROM PHOENIX using Google Maps.

http://goo.gl/maps/iw4fW

Saturday November 23 - Sunday November 24

Apache Lake,  Burnt Corral Campout and Paddle

Saturday morning paddle along the shoreline of the north end of the lake ~ 10 am

Saturday afternoon Happy Hour 

Saturday late afternoon Potluck / Dutch Oven Cooking, Bring something to share

Sunday morning - noon paddle.

More details to follow soon

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Here's a map of the north section of Apache lake just downsteam from Roosevelt lake and Roosevelt dam.

Reference: Tonto National Forest map for road detail, Highly recommended  :)


Suggestions for paddle destinations and activities welcome. Saturday morning after breakfast - noon, a paddle will follow the shoreline north along the narrow canyon portion of the lake, then back to Burnt corral.

Bring a bundle of firewood if you can.

We'd like to see the kayak fishermen in the group out there bringing in some tasty fresh fish too.

http://earth.google.com/kmlpreview/#url=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.keyhole.com%2Fubb%2Fubbthreads.php%3Fubb%3Ddownload%26Number%3D242206

Some photos from 3 years ago>>>>>

 

   

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  • gary g

    John, knew would be on top of it. You are a "Hard Core" camper. Have Fun.

    1 · November 23, 2013

    • JRiv

      I've been on other Paddle Arizona trips which had more rain including the White Mtn. trip. 48 degrees just isn't very cold to me when wearing the right clothing. There was more rain in the Phoenix area compared to out there. Somehow, I get the impression that many people thought Burnt Corral was at a higher elevation where there was more rain, cold and snow.

      November 25, 2013

    • Mark N ..Extra Average B.

      Shoulda told every one this last week

      1 · November 25, 2013

  • Jim T.

    I bailed sorry. I have 2.5" of water in my Scottsdale raingage, reports of 5" may be reasonable in the higher elevations.

    November 23, 2013

    • JRiv

      There was more rain in Scottsdale compared to Burnt Corral at Apache lake. It's only 1920 feet in elevation at Burnt Corral actually.

      November 25, 2013

  • JRiv

    I enjoyed everyone's company, the scenery, hiking. We encountered more rain driving there compared to what rain fell at Burnt Corral. The twin ramada's worked nicely for shelter, but the rain was mostly light, overcast most of the time, cooler Sunday. Snow down to 4500' in elevation on the Sierra's Ancha's peaks east of Roosevelt lake and on the Pinal mtn.s south of Globe. Will post photos when I return to my home computer.

    1 · November 25, 2013

  • Deborah

    Great event...so very scenic.....Bristol and I.sure enjoyed hanging out with the "hardy bunch" :) I will post pix soon.

    1 · November 24, 2013

  • Bob W.

    Thanks JRiv, a good time was had by all. Great to see you all again and nice to meet Bristol. ;-)

    1 · November 24, 2013

  • Danuta

    Sorry, it's a little too cold and wet for me.

    Next time for sure

    November 23, 2013

  • Todd T.

    too stormy going to bail.

    November 23, 2013

  • gary g

    Globe had over 5 inches of rain, so beware all the warshes will be running full. So be prepared.

    November 23, 2013

    • JRiv

      I've checked the USGS stream and river flow. Claims of 5 inches are BS. It's been mostly light rain and radar, stream flows and official rain gages tell a different story. The low is moving slow, centered 40 miles east of San Diego.

      November 23, 2013

  • gary g

    After checking Globe airport totals, totaled around an inch. I saw on TV totals around state and they said Globe had 5 inches of rain. Go figure. Still there is a lot or water, there is flood warning until 5 am this morning in the Globe area, so still be prepared.

    November 23, 2013

  • marlene

    I'm staying inside where its cozy,warm and dry! Was really looking forward to this one too. Maybe drive up Sunday morning.

    November 22, 2013

  • Bob W.

    I recommend going via Beeline Hwy (Rt87) to Rt188 and back down or 60 through Miami to Rt188. That leaves you only about 6 or 7 miles of dirt road.

    1 · November 22, 2013

  • JRiv

    Sunday will be a beautiful paddling day. There's good shelter during the large metal ramada's at Burnt Corral campground so planning on camping there which there's abundant rain shelter. We'll deploy additional tarpage as necessary.

    1 · November 22, 2013

  • Heidi W

    Sorry to be a party-pooper, but I am also bailing out......

    November 22, 2013

  • JRiv

    Rain is tapering off on Saturday and very minimal for Saturday night. Sunday should be good for paddling and enjoying some sun shining though the clouds.

    1 · November 22, 2013

  • Norman J

    I am concerned about Apache trail, so for that, I am bailing. Sorry.

    November 22, 2013

  • Bob W.

    Maybe we should run the Verde instead?

    1 · November 22, 2013

    • JRiv

      Hmmm... soon. Hoping for more snowpack and runoff in the Arizona rivers this spring

      November 22, 2013

  • Deborah

    I will head out early Saturday morning from Camp Verde.Slow steady rain here all night and still coming down ...the river was already up some before this storm:)

    1 · November 22, 2013

  • John K.

    John, Sorry to cancel but weather is not cooperating.

    November 22, 2013

  • Late Nate ✌.

    Hey JRiv ,
    I think Im out on this one due to the weather. :-(

    November 22, 2013

  • JRiv

    I'll be heading out there early Saturday morning, camping overnight Saturday. Sunday looks like the best day to paddle. Driving via hwy 87, then 188 along Tonto creek to Roosevelt dam, then Burnt Corral at Apache lake.

    November 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Christy and I will be bailing on this event :-( We were taking Christy's Niece and Nephew, but we don't want to take them if the weather is going to dampen the experience for them. We will probably take them on a day paddle at Lake Pleasant. Hopefully it isn't too windy that day. For those that are going, be safe and have a great time! We will miss you all.

    1 · November 21, 2013

    • JRiv

      See you'all soon in drier weather. No doubt.. .this is turning out to be a major moisture maker, MMM :)

      November 21, 2013

    • JRiv

      Likely best weather day will be Sunday. Could still be very windy at Lake Pleasant which is a windy lake once Pacific storms hit

      November 21, 2013

  • Dick H.

    Hate to do this as I was looking fwd. to meeting you all and having a little paddle here and there along with some camaraderie and eats.
    There are just too many good days in Arizona and I can't justify camping in the cold and the mud for a couple nights.
    Look fwd. to trying again and will keep the damned good Chile con carne in the freezer for a later try.
    RSVP'ing out.

    November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      Dick, the event is still on, just shortened, so hope you would consider camping 1 night, Saturday, so bring the Chile con Carne, if you'd like. There are still some folks camping both Friday and Saturday nights.

      November 20, 2013

    • Dick H.

      Thanks for the thoughts but I'm a Tucson guy and that extra couple hours drive has to figure in to everything too!

      1 · November 21, 2013

  • Bob W.

    Unless the forecast calls for severe thunderstorms, I'm still going up on Friday. Anybody else?

    2 · November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      It will be quite rainy Friday, dryer, but still rainy and overcast Saturday with some breaks in the rain. Watch the weather closely and watch for flooding washes, camp on higher ground and I'll see you Saturday morning. The drainage on roads here is good, decomposed granite, so not muddy. I'll be there with my Beige 4Runner, not sure if I'm bringing my camp trailer, if only one night.

      November 20, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      FOR NOW... EXPECTED PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WILL RANGE FROM 1/3 TO 3/4 OF AN INCH IN SOUTHEAST CALIFORNIA AND PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST ARIZONA... WITH THE BRUNT OF THE RAIN... 1.00 TO 2.50 INCHES FALLING IN SOUTHERN AND CENTRAL ARIZONA. THE HIGHEST PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS HOWEVER ARE EXPECTED TO FALL IN THE MOUNTAINS NORTH AND EAST OF PHOENIX - Friday Weather Warning

      November 21, 2013

  • Norman J

    November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      Upon reading an update a few minutes ago and Norm's update link with increased rainfall amounts forecast for Friday and looking at radar in southern CA. I'm going to modify this to a Saturday morning - Sunday afternoon event when the rainfall should be tapering off.

      November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      I think one should go prepared with a reliable vehicle with off road capabilities and watch the weather. Rain gear, travel with friends, all good ideas. There is cellular phone and 3G data reception at Roosevelt dam, so there it's possible to post updates and send and receive calls, text messages. Once in the canyon, no cell phone reception. There are emergency call boxes (direct to Sheriff's dept) at Burnt Corral campground.

      November 20, 2013

  • tom m

    think I will had out on sat, get up to the lake around 11

    1 · November 20, 2013

  • marlene

    Will probably not come up til Saturday.as it sounds as though the rain will be tapering off by then.

    November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      Smart gal :)

      November 20, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Looks like Friday is 70% rain now and Saturday is 40%

    November 20, 2013

    • Bob W.

      Nobody does LZ covers like the Wilson sisters, except maybe Dread Zeppelin. ;-)

      1 · November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      The forecasted weather got me thinking of Led Zep's "The Rain Song" and since Heart did this series of gigs earlier this year with Jason Bonham (son of John). Rock On

      November 20, 2013

  • JRiv

    Upon reading an update a few minutes ago and Norm's update link with increased rainfall amounts forecast for Friday and looking at radar in southern CA. I'm going to modify this to a Saturday morning - Sunday afternoon event when the rainfall should be tapering off. Don't you'all just love it when an early season pacific moist, but fairly warm storm system drops in :) That's what's happening. Good News, needed rain and a start of snowfall for a whitewater season :)

    November 20, 2013

  • David

    Work is looking like a conflict. Will show if possible Sat but for now have RSVPd No.

    November 20, 2013

  • Bob W.

    The nights and mornings are going to be cool. Everybody please bring a bundle of firewood with you.

    1 · November 20, 2013

    • JRiv

      Bring rope, rain tarpage and clever designs :)

      November 20, 2013

    • Deborah

      I am bringing firewood☺

      1 · November 20, 2013

  • JRiv

    Please update your RSVP by Wednesday, IF you don't plan on attending. Thank You. JRiv, Event host

    November 19, 2013

    • JRiv

      Saturday morning paddle ~ 10 am. Bring PFD, paddle jackets, paddle pants, a rain hat, a positive attitude

      3 · November 19, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    We might get wet, from above, that is :-) http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Phoenix+AZ+USAZ0166:1:US

    We will keep an eye on that!

    1 · November 18, 2013

    • JRiv

      Hmm;;; looks like the rain likelihood is high for Thursday night - Friday night and rainfall amounts fairly low, scattered showers. By Saturday morning, more sunshine and a reduced probability of rain.

      1 · November 18, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      yeah - it keeps changing. Sounds like rain for sure though, so be prepared!

      1 · November 19, 2013

  • Deborah

    I will bring a dessert☺

    1 · November 18, 2013

  • tom m

    Will bring potato salad.
    And a good supply of wood

    November 17, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    So for our Dutch Oven/Potluck Dinner on Saturday night, what is everyone planning on bringing. I'd like to put this question out there so we do not have 10 bean dishes out there, if you know what I mean :-) If John is not making his awesome green chili pork dish, I will try to duplicate it. If he is making his green chili pork dish, I will make a different type of pork dish. So... Speak up please, if you are participating in our potluck on Saturday night. Thanks!

    1 · November 17, 2013

    • Mark N ..Extra Average B.

      I'll bring a certain amount of hunger

      November 17, 2013

    • Dick H.

      i'm bringin' chile con carne!

      November 17, 2013

  • Deborah

    This sounds fun:) I have to be at Blue Ridge Ranger Station Friday am, so planning to head to Apache from there. Anyone else bringing their dog?

    1 · November 17, 2013

  • Dick H.

    Will be up Friday late afternoon. Looking fwd. to meeting everyone and having a good paddle, maybe a li'l fishin' too.

    November 16, 2013

  • tom m

    lower burnt corral is open if we do not want in the developed area, there were about 5 sites being used this last weekend,
    Burnt corral only about 14 or 15 sites used, should be less on a Non holiday weekend.

    2 · November 12, 2013

    • JRiv

      May consider it. Most sites at Lower Burnt corral are not that desirable nor is there room for 30 - 40 people except for the camp site furthest down the shoreline next to the big Willow tree, which is frequently taken. I've camped at that campsite several times years ago, when the Burnt Corral area wasn't so busy. There are better campsites including the group site in the Main Burnt Corral campground with better wind protection (more trees).

      November 13, 2013

    • JRiv

      and more room, more level campsites.

      November 13, 2013

  • Jim T.

    Undeveloped camping is my preference. I am planning on arriving Friday before dusk. Am I reading between the lines that we may not "need" permits this time of year?

    November 13, 2013

    • JRiv

      Undeveloped camping is my preference too. The undeveloped area's still have rest rooms. Tonto passes (each one good for 24 hours including camping) are still needed for the lesser developed area's in the Burnt Corral area's. Where did you get an idea they were not needed? The Lower Burnt corral may be an option, but I've heard very inconsistent information from the USFS, depending who one talks to and what day it is. Best advice, be prepared for anything as this is not the USFS as it once was. They have very little budget for anything as congress keeps taking that away. The whole concept of public recreation area's and public land could go away if certain idiots in congress had their way.

      November 13, 2013

  • tom m

    JRiv,
    I called tonto region office last Tuesday before I went up there this weekend and they told me Upper was open also. Great communication ! ! Did not take camping permits since I did not think I would need them. Host said it all came down to the one guy doing the cleanup saying it was to much to do all three campgrounds in 40 hours.

    November 11, 2013

    • JRiv

      Wow, how could it take more than 40 hours to clean and empty ~ 4 rest rooms on a weekly basis? I understand the USFS has contracted this work out to a private contractor. I'll talk to them again later today

      November 12, 2013

    • Bob W.

      I'm thinking of coming up Friday night and camping, but I'm not a big fan of the developed BC campground.

      November 12, 2013

  • Peggy

    Unfortunately we will not be able to join in the wine tasting festivities.

    November 11, 2013

    • JRiv

      I'm not planning on any official wine tasting this time, but likely wine will be present. I do understand you and some others have other plans for this weekend. See you at the next event soon

      November 12, 2013

  • Late Nate ✌.

    Jriv, was kinda wondering about how many would camp fri night and would we do any night paddling Friday or sat ?

    November 12, 2013

    • JRiv

      Several people mentioned they were planning on camping Friday and Sat. Night paddle maybe?

      November 12, 2013

  • marlene

    I'm coming up Friday late morning and camping fri nite.

    November 12, 2013

  • Dick H.

    Thinkin' about it. If coming up from oro valley would 77 to globe then pick up apache trail to roosevelt then to apache.lk. be the preferred for me? any opinions?

    November 11, 2013

    • JRiv

      Yes, 77 from Globe / Miami, on to Roosevelt lake, Roosevelt dam, then turn onto the Apache trail 5 1/2 miles or so to Burnt Corral campground. Hoping to be close to the water, but it's first come, first serve there. A Tonto pass is good for 24 hours of being there and covers camping.

      November 12, 2013

    • Dick H.

      Thanks

      November 12, 2013

  • Kevin

    I just rsvp'd but noticed this wasn't recommended for beginners due to hypothermia risks. I guess I'll wait for another event but I'm excited to get back out on the water. I took a rolling class in college a decade ago, and paddle every couple years. I'd like to get out on the water more often though. The other problem, I don't own a boat!

    November 12, 2013

    • JRiv

      The point here being, the water is fairly cold as this is downstream of Roosevelt dam where it's released, therefore not recommended for first time paddlers.

      November 12, 2013

  • marlene

    Now I'm confused. Are we meeting at Upper again?

    November 12, 2013

    • JRiv

      Hi Marline, Had to change it to the Main Burnt Corral campground. The USFS decided to not open Upper Burnt Corral (very silly) and I had received bad info. on it's status earlier from another USFS office. They don't seem to don't what they are doing at times.

      November 12, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Christy and I should be joining you guys on this event. We will be bringing Christy's nephew, Luke. We plan to teach him some paddling/peddling and do some fishing. Who knows, if we catch enough, maybe we can have a fish fry! Plans are to be there Friday afternoon. Let us know which campgrounds we will be located. Thanks!

    November 11, 2013

  • tom m

    Upper burnt corral is closed, been closed since the so called government shutdown and camp host says it looks like feb will be when it reopens.
    Lower and burn corral are open at this time

    November 11, 2013

    • JRiv

      Hi Tom, I had called the Mesa district office, but looks like they gave me some bad info. So you talked to the host at Lower (Main) Burnt corral? Will move to the main burnt corral campground then.

      November 11, 2013

  • David

    I may bring the sailboat, if not I will bring the kayak and try to sail it. Are we going to do a wine tasting and potluck again? :-) :-) ?

    November 6, 2013

    • JRiv

      Yes, bring sailboat if you'd like. Other boating vessels including SUP's welcome as well

      November 6, 2013

    • David

      Maybe I could be talked into making my world famous beer brats and kraut sides again. Wine usually puts me in the cooking mood. Hint hint... Hmm, chile verde ala Dach is sounding mighty good right now tho..With jalapeno cornbread..

      2 · November 7, 2013

  • John K.

    Will come up after work on Friday

    1 · November 6, 2013

    • JRiv

      Cool. See you there John

      November 6, 2013

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