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(NEHH) 4th of July Weekend: Jay and Big Jay (Moderate/Intermedia­te)

Please read the entire event description before you RSVP. It is important, not only for your safety, but that of the entire group. RSVP questions are not optional, please answer them or you may be removed from the "attending" list. These questions help to ensure the safety of the group.

If you RSVP from a mobile device, the questions do not always appear. Simply edit your RSVP from a computer as soon as you can (just click to edit your RSVP and hit "yes" again, you won't lose your spot that way even if there is a waiting list) and answer the questions.

 

This is Day 3 of a 4-day hiking weekend in Vermont. I have reserved a campsite for 3 nights at the New Discovery State Campground. It has a fairly large lean-to and there is room for a small tent or too as well on the site. Maximum occupancy will be 6 more people per night, and the spaces are allocated to those participating in my hikes here only. The nightly cost will be split according to the number of people staying on a given night. There are a fair number of additional sites available at the same campground if we need more room.

 

Those wishing to spent a night/nights must let me know in the RSVP questions that come up when you RSVP! Additionally, if you are attending more than one of the hikes I am leading over this weekend, you must RSVP for each one in order to attend them.


We start as a group, hike as a group, and finish as a group. Our pace will be that of the slowest hiker. This trip isn't for you if you are faster than the group and don't want to stay with us, if you want to head off on your own, or if you are slower than the group and expect us to constantly wait for you.


TRIP SUMMARY

It's time for me to work on finishing off the final peaks on my New England 4000-Footer List, and knock off some New England 100 Highest while I'm at it. For day 3, we will be doing a relatively short hike to the Northern-most peaks in Vermont on the New England 100 Highest. Jay Peak offers some spectacular views from its rocky summit, and was once felt to be one of the most spectacular peaks in all of Vermont before blasting occurred on the summit to build a restaurant.

 

This will be a fairly straight-forward, but steep hike utilizing the Long Trail to the summit of Jay Peak. From the summit there, we will descend a very short distance to the North on the Long Trail and then follow a reportedly obvious herd path over to the summit of Big Jay. We will then retrace our steps back over Jay Peak back to the start. On this trip we will hike approximately 5 miles and climb roughly 2300 feet. It should take approximately 3.75 hours to complete based on the "book time" formula. It might take us more time or less depending on trail conditions, but our pace is intended to be nominally "book time".

 

I did my research using the GMC's Long Trail Guide, the GMC's Day Hiker's Guide to Vermont, and the internet. You are responsible for knowing and being comfortable with the route as well.

 

This hike is rated as intermediate due to the elevation gain involved, and moderate due to the mileage.

 

TIMING

We will leave the meeting location at 10:00AM sharp, so be at the trailhead by 9:45 or earlier to put boots on/gear up. I will email all participants with my phone number in advance. I may or may not have cell phone coverage at the trailhead, so please let me know by 9:15AM on hike day if you anticipate that you will be late. Otherwise, we will not wait for anyone that arrives after the start time.

 


Mountain weather is subject to rapid changes and extreme conditions. Dangerous weather conditions will cancel - I will post an update and/or send an email to all confirmed participants a day or two ahead of time. We will assess travel and weather conditions during the hike and make changes to our planned trip as necessary.

Current conditions : http://www.erh.noaa.gov/btv/mountain/

 

GEAR
Below is a list describing the minimum required items to participate in this event. Hiking safely is about being prepared so that you can respond to an emergency situation or spend a night in the woods if you have to.

Do not rely on others to have extra items to share with you at the meeting spot or on the trail. You should know how to use all of your equipment - test and adjust it prior to this trip. Please ask me if you have any questions regarding gear.

  • Footwear: Proper, well-soled hiking or mountaineering boots with synthetic or wool socks with a spare pair in your pack.
  • Hands and Head: A synthetic or wool cap that covers your ears and warm, non-cotton waterproof gloves.
  • Clothing: Dress in layers with "wicking" synthetics next to the skin and wool or other synthetic over that if further insulation is desired. Also, it can be windy at the summit and it will typically be much colder at higher elevations so please be prepared. Make sure your layers fit comfortably over each other. DO NOT WEAR COTTON! While cotton is a great insulator when it's dry, once wet it doesn't dry easily and it rapidly conducts heat away from the body. Also consider bringing an extra layer in your pack just in case.
  • Outerwear: Windproof/waterproof shell (with hood) as well as windproof/waterproof pants. A fleece pullover or similar insulating layer for the summit is recommended.
  • Food and Water: Bring high-energy snacks making sure you have plenty of salts and sugars, your choice of food for lunch, and pack extra just in case. Again, bring enough water to stay properly hydrated during the trip (2-3 liters is what I suggest). Use at least two Nalgene bottles or a hydration bladder to carry your water. It's a good idea to have a hearty meal the night before followed by a good night's sleep. Also, try to begin the hike well hydrated.
  • Shelter: Be prepared to spend a night in the woods if you have to. Minimal options include an ultralight tarp, a bivy sack, or an emergency space blanket (which packs small and weighs just ounces). A pad or some way to get off the ground is also highly recommended (though pine boughs can work).
  • Other Essential Gear: Map and compass: don't just bring them, know how to use them. Also, a plastic whistle, headlamp with spare batteries (required, forget and you can't come), a first aid kit containing any medications you may need personally (please let me know if you have any applicable allergies, medical conditions, and special medications you may be carrying), a small knife or multipurpose tool, matches or wind-proof lighter and fire starter, a toiletries kit (e.g. hand sanitizer, toilet paper and a zip-lock bag to pack out your used personal hygiene items), sunscreen, lip balm, sunglasses, and a waterproof pack cover.
  • Optional Items: Gaiters to keep rocks/mud out of your boots, stowable trekking poles (recommended) and camera.

 

MEETING LOCATION

The Meeting location is located at the roadside parking lot (on the South side of the highway I believe) at the top of the pass on Route 242 near Jay, Vermont. The trailhead is just downhill from this parking lot. The map location above is approximate.


Any carpooling is each person’s responsibility to arrange. Use the comments section below to inquire.


As a condition of your voluntary participation in this activity you acknowledge and agree to the following: this activity involves inherent risks that can cause property damage, injury, illness, disability, and/or death to participants and/or others; You agree not to hold the Organizer, Assistant Organizers, or any other members responsible for any injuries, mishaps, or any other situation that may happen at a planned event. You are responsible to research the event, know the area, and bring the proper gear and agree to know and follow the Hiker Responsibility Code described at www.hikesafe.com

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  • Matt D.

    Nice hike, and the sun came out in the afternoon, allowing us to get views from Jay Peak on the way out. So nice we spent probably an hour or more on the summit just enjoying it! The herd path was easy enough to find and follow, but extremely muddy almost all throughout, and we had to 'whack around a few very deep pits.

    Nick, sorry you had truck problems and you couldn't make it! Glad to hear the truck is back up and running though, hope to see you on another hike!

    July 8, 2013

  • Nicholas T

    Matt, do you plan to email out your cellphone number?

    July 3, 2013

    • Matt D.

      I will be sending out an informational email this afternoon after the RSVP deadline has passed (2PM). My # will be included.

      July 3, 2013

  • Elizabeth

    Matt, on the road. Thought I cx'd both. Was tryin to ssend messae not. Sign up. Thanks for info. Elizabeth

    June 29, 2013

  • Elizabeth

    Hi Matt, I'm planning on doing this solo on Sunday. Can you send me an email or post if there's anything I should be on the lookout for re: bushwhack/herd path to Big Jay? Thanks, wish I could join you but I am tied up till mid afternoon. Have fun!

    June 29, 2013

    • Matt D.

      And also, if you plan this on Sunday, are you still coming on the Mansfield hike? Please update your RSVP's accordingly if you are not doing either of these hikes on the dates of the Meetups.

      June 29, 2013

    • Matt D.

      Wait, never mind about the Mansfield bit. Different Elizabeths!

      June 29, 2013

  • Matt D.

    Theresa, we can discuss it over on that hike page, but I am game to go for Mendon too, especially as no one else has joined yet. It sounds like it is actually not bad to add to Killington/Pico, aside from the added mileage. Will be a longer day but certainly possible. I'll update the Meetup tonight.

    June 27, 2013

    • Matt D.

      Nothing specific, but I'm definitely up for something if there is interest.

      June 27, 2013

    • Nicholas T

      There is a great place in West Glover, VT (which isn't that far from Westfield) - it's called Parker Pie.

      June 28, 2013

  • Elizabeth

    Any chance you'd reverse the dates of your VT hikes? I'd need the Jays but have to do some work on Sat.

    June 26, 2013

    • Matt D.

      I have a total of 4 hikes posted for 4th of July Weekend, all in VT. Only the Jays are in the group you mention: Killington/Pico (may add Mendon depending), Mansfield, Jays, Camel's Hump.

      June 27, 2013

    • Theresa

      Hi Matt, when will you decide if you add Mendon to the July 4 hike? I already have Killington and Pico but would like to hike Mendon.

      June 27, 2013

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