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Money (Currency)

Last month, we investigated the origins of Property:  this month, we complement that by looking at Money.  I don't have a particular starting point for us–not even a straw man theory–so bring yours to share.  One thing I definitely can say about money is that it could only have arisen in organized society, perhaps requiring even a state.  But how?

Once we figure out what money is and where the idea came from (or get tired of trying), we can probe how it functions in society, how (probably even more than we think) it serves to define our interactions with others, the state, even our own selves.  When I go to SFDebate, the resolutions are frequently couched in terms of financial restitution–but what if the damages are not monetary?  Like it or not, our sense of VALUE seems to rest on the example of tradable currency.  It behooves us to understand "the ultimate abstraction" more profoundly.

Please bring a "focal point" to concentrate us on a shared idea for a few minutes at a time.  If you have a question, write down a good wording; find a quote that you find provocative; maybe there's a story from a movie or your childhood that's relevant.  I promise to ask for these at the top of the meeting. 

Um, and don't forget to do your taxes...

Jeff

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  • Jay C.

    Maybe we should issue our own money, with a picture of Thales, the first philosopher to make money speculating. Call it the Specular, I believe Thaler is already taken.

    December 2, 2013

  • Jeff G

    An interesting article about how the extralegality of crypto-currencies depend on their market cap: http://www.businessinsider.com/im-changing-my-mind-about-bitcoin-2013-12

    December 2, 2013

  • Jeff G

    I've enrolled in a Coursera course on money. Instructor is taking a sociological-anthropological approach, and it looks quite promising: for example, he says we will be studying the payment system rather than balance sheets. Here's the reading list: https://class.coursera.org/money-001/wiki/view?page=readings

    November 11, 2013

  • Jeff G

    Handling money feels good! Wonder where we could have gone with that? http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/study-handling-money-minimizes-pain

    July 24, 2013

  • Jeff G

    This gave me hope for meetings like this one:
    "In this our talking America, we are ruined by our good nature and listening on all sides. This compliance takes away the power of being greatly useful. A man should not be able to look other than directly and forthright. A preoccupied attention is the only answer to the importunate frivolity of other people; an attention, and to an aim which makes their wants frivolous. This is a divine answer, and leaves no appeal, and no hard thoughts." (1844)

    April 8, 2013

  • Jay C.

    Remembered the quote I was searching for, used as the title of Robert Ruark's anti-colonialist novel "Something of Value", an African proverb "Do not give up the old ways until you have something of value to replace them".

    March 26, 2013

  • Jeff G

    Money's popularity is like...well, money! I will be there early, but there's no way I can hold so much space by myself, so come early if you can. We'll start on time.

    March 26, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Money is just a middle man. It usually stands for something that some people think they want: Power, security, no worry about having to pay bills, expensive toys, self-worth etc. But all of those things really are stand-ins for the search for personal happiness. So, while we need a certain amount of money, if people can find out what really makes them happy, they can by-pass the middle-man

    March 26, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm new to the group and quite interested in this subject. I'm writing in the hopes that someone might bring an understanding of BitCoins to the discussion tomorrow. All I know is that BitCoins are not backed by any government and are anonymous. They also have real value (??!!??!!). Thanks I hope I can make it Tuesday.

    March 25, 2013

  • Brent

    This is one of my favorite topics, and I look forward to this meetup.

    Also, I want to recommend an absolute must-see animated film on YouTube called, "Money as Debt." Its all about what money is, how it got started, how banks got started, how they function, what debt is, and the more sinister aspects of how it is all very tightly controlled. Anyone interested in money will like this and be entertained in the process. It really puts things together well. Novice or expert, you'll learn things you either weren't aware of, or get further detail on what you were.

    I hope you'll take the time to see it if you can. I just watched it again and its great! If the link below doesn't work for some reason, just type in the name at Youtube search.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K5_JE_gOys

    Brent

    March 24, 2013

  • Jeff G

    I certainly approve of reading, but the burden is on the reader to express the idea ( whether his or anyone else's) in everyday language that anyone can understand. Check out the Meeting Notes and Your Last Words discussion threads for a more extensive preview.

    March 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    So, is this group (I started it 4 years ago) no longer about our own personal thoughts, but about books and what other people think?

    March 21, 2013

    • Chris W.

      Welcome back! I've only been to the meeting on Bergson's Laughter (which had a more structured format). However, I think the group still expects people to bring their own experience to the discussion (how could we not?) even if we reference texts and philosophers.

      March 21, 2013

  • Chris W.

    Not sure if I can make it. Recommend Georg Simmel's The Philosophy of Money as starting point.

    March 19, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Will try to make it this time

    March 19, 2013

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