3 views of anarchy: Teresa, Ellul, Russell

  • December 2, 2012 · 1:00 PM
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  • amanda m.

    There are "the people who run us" but we are actually in charge of a lot: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151313894748529

    1 · December 2, 2012

  • amanda m.

    Anarchism- there is the term as authors use it.There is the term as the "person in the street" uses it.I tire of those who somehow think the authors are the ones who are somehow "right."In a practical sense there will always be "the people who run us." No amount of armchair philosophizing will get rid of that. That is reality.Im going to somewhat twist the term and use in the street sense as disorder. The "bad guys" who want to do evil have no problem embracing the transformation from the current state to the evil state. They have almost zero discomfort in a transition period of disorder. But on the way to any change by people who want to do good, there is a period of disorder. By holding back and feeling revulsion to transition state we're mired in a status quo. The current state may be worse than a better place that the good people seek.Are we to leave all change to the evil persons? No.By getting ourselves prepared to accept disorder we can only then hope for a better future.

    December 2, 2012

  • Alan G.

    I would like to represent the position that anarchy--as a philosophical perspective--has to do with a critique of the idea of legitimate authority and its sources. This perspective has been explored extensively by Robert Paul Wolff in his book "In Defense of Anarchism" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Defense_of_Anarchism
    In addition, there is a wonderful interview with Wolff here: http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/rn/podcast/2008/05/pze_20080503.mp3

    1 · November 30, 2012

  • Alan G.

    I have recently begun to re-read Proudhon's What is Property? (Not in the original French, unfortunately!). He begins thusly: "If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to take from a man his thought, his will, his personality, is a power of life and death; and that to enslave a man is to kill him. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first?"

    1 · November 30, 2012

  • D.F.

    I am fine with a different location but it was one Rami really wanted. He has RSVPed that he is not going to attend. I am sad about that because I wanted to see his wife and daughter. Anyway do you want to change the location back to Austin's?

    November 26, 2012

  • Rami K.

    Yes there is a specific logic, though its basis is open for discussion. My initial decision for choosing Dandelion Communitea as a location is threefold: 1) Dandelion is a gathering spot known for a 1-2 PM Sunday rush. The first hour is an excellent example of social energy in action where a wider cross-section of city population interacts; an indoor/outdoor location where different groups in a specific territory may ignore, and sometimes play off each other. Figuring most substantive discussion would occur between 2 to 4 PM, when the stub description above is changed to include additional details I may suggest 1-2 PM as optional. 2) The topic itself is potentially inciting; who knows who may RSVP? I love Austin's as a regular hosting location. Anarchy may better be lent as a topic to a teahouse [as opposed to coffee]. Also if something wild were to happen I would rather it occur outside our regular stomping grounds. I am glad you asked.

    3) Variety is life's spice.

    October 29, 2012

    • Rami K.

      In response to fold 2, personally I found http://books.google.c...­ to help

      October 29, 2012

    • Jairo M.

      I hope this does not break with tradition and our loyalty to Austin's and their great food and environment. But yes it would be fun to try new venues once in a while. I like Dandelion too. And maybe some people who can't make to Austin's for whatever reason will be able to come to this place.

      November 21, 2012

  • Ben Forbes G.

    Suggestion: we might get more attendance if this is moved to Austin's as usual (unless there is a specific reason it's not being held there)... Anyway, there was talk of this meetup at the end of the politics meetup last Sunday and there seemed to be some interest within the group, but few have RSVPd thus far.

    October 29, 2012

  • Rami K.

    September 23, 2012

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