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Religion for Atheists by Alain de Bottom.

  • Feb 24, 2013 · 1:00 PM
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If this book offends those with absorbing religious beliefs I would ask them to read it because it is not offensive. I will leave it to those of you who have met to decide to use it or not to use it.

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  • A former member
    A former member

    http://www.hulu.com/#!search?q=Alain+de+Bottom easy viewing for more de Bottom

    March 18, 2013

  • amanda m.

    I don't think it rises to the level of epiphany but here goes. I started understanding this from a new participant today. There is this preaching that christians improved on the old testament- by not following the law. The Protestant reformation revised things so they don't follow the prior Catholic law. So true believers actually have some justification for breaking the law- secular law. Explains the Klu Klux Klan by churchgoers I suppose. Here is a view that allows a portrayal of being christian without churchgoing. Handy because huge numbers under 50 are no longer churchgoers but many say they are. The right has used propaganda to say they don't need to be churchgoing just be Republicans. http://lubbockonline.com/faith/2011-06-27/pastor-says-todays-christians-dont-need-old-testament-traditions#.USrgBHOuWec

    1 · February 24, 2013

    • Jairo M.

      Wow. A summary of thousands of years of culture, politics, beliefs, philosophies, movements, government, self-government, Judeo-Christian influence and decline or degeneration? Interesting view.

      March 16, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    too many people

    February 23, 2013

    • Jairo M.

      about 10 people showed up.

      February 25, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    Glad to see new and interesting members. Great to meet one 17 year old learning the philosophical/ethical/political stuff in High School I am struggling to learn on my own. Learned how a non believer deals with the US paper currency with "In God We Trust". Learned a little history about Pledge of Allegiance. Additionally, the author Francis Bellamy was socialist, besides being a Baptist minister.

    February 25, 2013

  • Steve S.

    we got off topic quite a bit, but overall it was as enjoyable as usual. Kudos go to Steve (our leader) who (this time) was able to keep an accurate comment stack in his head!

    February 25, 2013

  • Steve S.

    I prefer Austin's, but maybe because I don't know anything about Spooky's. Stardust has enough room usually (near Corrine & Winter Park Rd). I HAVE been to the Black Cat Cafe in the UU Church and it's certainly big enough. But the question is if they're willing to "rent it" for free to us because we will leave by 5pm - well before the music starts. Anyway - I'm ready to participate if this actually happens - I'll show up. I don't really care where.

    1 · February 18, 2013

    • Jairo M.

      Austin's is cool. Steve (organizer) made it official. Maybe next time at Spooky's once someone investigates if they can accommodate a large group.

      February 19, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    if no one dares suggest some location, may I suggest Austin's Cafe and Film. Also interesting is Dandelion's. Ethos Vegan has a new location.

    February 4, 2013

    • Jairo M.

      Time is running out. No one is opposed to Spooky Black Cat Cafe. No one is asking for another place, or Austin's. Don't know about Unitarian. Within a week from meetup someone should make the location definite.

      February 14, 2013

    • Veronica D.

      I vote the Spooky Black Cat Cafe, but I think someone should check to see if they can accommodate 10-25 people on a Sunday afternoon.

      February 17, 2013

  • Patricia G. A.

    I really hoped that the discussion would be in person with group and not over the internet. The Unitarian Church on Robinson would, no doubt, be a good place to meet. Having never met with this group I left it to you to name the time and place.

    February 2, 2013

    • Jairo M.

      Would they have an area or a room for us? Would we have to pay rent for the room?

      February 10, 2013

    • Veronica D.

      The Unitarian Church would be ideal, except no refreshments can be purchased. It is my church.

      February 17, 2013

  • Jairo Moreno changed the date and time to Sunday, February 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM

    February 10, 2013

  • Veronica Drake changed the location for this Meetup

    February 1, 2013

  • Veronica Drake changed the location for this Meetup

    February 1, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    Alternatively there is the Advaita Vedanta way of grasping God, which makes it not something outside and above us, but something in and out of us, and Reality itself. Therefore we democratically co-create the Universe. http://www.destinationinfinity.org/2009/02/23/advaita-philosophy-and-concept-of-aham-bhramasmi-%E2%80%93-i-am-god/

    1 · January 12, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    The basis of philosophy and spirituality should be to question all beliefs even the most cherished and ask oneself what is the motive for the intention or the resolution, and cultivate virtuous selfless or altruistic motives. Where does this thought come from? Did I create this thought? Is it a thought of habit? Could there be some sort of creator or divine presence that is creating my thoughts. Divine here does not necessarily mean benevolent. A divine being could also be a demon, don't you think?

    1 · January 12, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    I suspect or view that Atheists/Agnostics/Free Thinkers who were once early in their youth indoctrinated with God and Santa Claus feel that by having rejected those beliefs and all-American notions such as "In God We Trust" have been marginalized by the mainstream US society and long for being able to participate and contribute to universal concerns [ and de Bottom is tapping into this longing], for which the Christian-based philosophers and the elite theologists (who are sponsored by mainstream churches) are better able to.

    January 12, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    "this book does not endeavor to do justice to particular religions; they have their own apologists. It tries, instead, to examine aspects of religious life which contain concepts that could fruitfully be applied to the problems of secular society. It attempts to burn off religions' more dogmatic aspects in order to distil a few aspects of them that could prove timely and consoling to skeptical contemporary minds facing the crises and griefs of finite existence on a troubled planet." from the book Religion for Atheists by Alain de Bottom.

    January 10, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    Hope you date it in February so I have some time to read up on it.

    January 10, 2013

  • Jairo M.

    I hope to read as much as I can before the meetup. Hopefully the meetup won't be too soon so I can read a good portion of it, at least skim and jump around in it, so I know a little of what it is about and what it suggests and whether it will work. And it would be great if a few others get interested in it and read some of it and be able to share in the meetup.

    January 10, 2013

  • Patricia G. A.

    I don't label myself an atheist however I do call myself an artist because it really discribes my makeup. Please set a date and place for me.

    January 9, 2013

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