Re: [Provocateurs] Sripture of the Week

From: Sara O.
Sent on: Friday, May 10, 2013 10:15 AM
Emotions are chemical reactions in the brain that effect the rest of body.  Strong Emotions have the ability to effect the body in the form of disease and injury.  Emotions do communicate knowledge about us and each one has a  message that needs to be felt, understood and released. The development of the brain is adversely or benefited from how the emotional, physical and attachment needs are met or not met when we are children and infants. There are numerous reports of children in orphanages  dying in from lack of affection even though they have food, clothes and shelter. Basically their heart stopped pumping.  And our brain can almost always grow new connections; new learnings though openness to learning, determination and kindness of others and sometimes with medications.   Research from the Mayo Clinic shows that having heart disease can increase your risk of cognitive impairment.  Also it has recently been  discovered that exercise is essential for brain health.
Rosebud Roberts led the study in Rochester, Minnesota. “They have problems with judgment. They have problems with making decisions. They may have problems with language. Or they may have problems with what we call visual/spacial abilities.”  So we have to maintain a wide variety of movement practice to maintain our brain and heart.
 


--- On Fri, 5/10/13, Prabhavati <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Prabhavati <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [Provocateurs] Sripture of the Week
To: [address removed]
Date: Friday, May 10, 2013, 8:33 AM

Couple of points.
Heart is a pump, but it's functioning does get affected by emotions.
Sky is an illusion. So saying way is not in the sky is right.



On 9 May[masked]:57, Mick G <[address removed]> wrote:
Reasoner,

I didn't miss it.  I think you did.  it is interesting that you call the Buddha ignorant and speak of how we shouldn't be 'too proud to learn'.
You must have so much knowledge!  How impressive!

Let's try it this way ....

The way is not in the sky  ...  the 'outer' ....empirical knowledge, objective data, analysis (like over analyzing metaphors in purely physical terms)
The way is in the heart...... the 'inner' .... empathy, compassion and the sense of connectedness with all that is.  This is wisdom.  

Perhaps this is a matter of 'wiring', as you might put it.  Some may not have the capacity for subjective experience.
To me viewing the world through the lens of purely objective experience is sterile.  It lacks 'soul' (I know, I hear your objection already)
I've seen this from both sides. I choose to live in a way that includes both outer and inner experience.  Both are vast.

Cole, I think you posted it because you got it.  The veggies must be getting to you.

Mick 


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Willard <[address removed]> wrote:
The claim that the heart is a seat of thinking and emotions, feelings is common in my 70 years of experiences and I have brought it up hundreds of times that the heart is a pump! The claim is common in the literature, movies, tv shows etc. and it has been challenged often when I do object to the claim of what is the heart's actual function. Bill Bolinger

From: cole morgan <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, May 7,[masked]:33 PM

Subject: Re: [Provocateurs] Sripture of the Week
Thanks Reasoner. I didn't know the heart can't think. You are a genius.

Cole

From: reasoner <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, May 7,[masked]:18 AM

Subject: Re: [Provocateurs] Sripture of the Week
The way is not in the sky. The way is in the heart -- Buddha. A barbarian might say such a thing, though I don't regard either of the previous messengers as primarily barbarians, of course--nor Buddha.  He lived in a much simpler time and place, and was relatively ignorant--even if unusually wise for such an ignorant time.  I suspect that much of his wisdom came from his unusual awareness of his ignorance.  It reinforces humility and perspective. 
The heart is a blood pump, and the sky is mostly an illusion that frequently changes.  -- Don Kemerling The heart is a blood pump that is absolutely essential to the continuation of life, an organ made of muscle that distributes the medium of blood, which carries oxygen, nutrients, antibodies and more.  The heart beat itself signals numerous items of information, including the health, as well as the emotional stability of the individual who owns it.  If the heartbeat is out of control, it could be the sign of a health problem, or a problem of real fear--with an object that causes the fear, or general stress brought on by life's challenges.  The sky appears as different things at different times.  At night it is a window to the universe, including comets, meteors, stars, nebulae, galaxies, asteroids, planets, quasars, etc.  It is also the blackness of space, if you're lucky enough to be where you don't suffer from light and air pollution from suburbs and cities and auto headlights.  This immense blackness is only, interrupted by the previous list of cosmic items.  In the daytime the sky can be blue, which is an illusion caused by the scattering of sunlight at the shorter end of the spectrum.  When it is blue it allows the warm energy and the illuminating power of sunlight.  When it is cloudy the sky can be physically menacing, but more likely it can bring the necessary rain, which allows the crops and gardens to grow and nourish us and the other fauna. "The heart" to the previous messengers, obviously means something that has plenty of wisdom on it's own, without endeavoring to learn more.  It obviously means you don't need to  think about various options, that a knee-jerk response is all the wisdom you'll ever need.  "The sky" is obviously something that you can't reach.  It's outside of your personal space.  If you have all the wisdom you will ever need, then why bother trying to learn anything?  One piece of wisdom the sky can teach us, if we aren't too arrogant to learn, is that we shouldn't forget how small we are.  It teaches us that we are both a speck in time and a speck in space.  It teaches, if we aren't too self-satisfied to learn, that we can survive--in the long run--only if we rely and support each other, while all of us understand the context we find ourselves in.  If I have to think simply, I'll go with the sky, but I refuse to think in such simple terms.  I would go on, but I doubt that many people on this list have read this far.  If anybody did, surprise me.               Don k on 5/6/[masked]:07 AM, Mick G wrote:
Yes ... it is! Cole are you becoming a mystic?
On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 11:01 AM, cole morgan <[address removed]> wrote:
The way is not in the sky. The way is in the heart -- Buddha.
Amen sisters & brothers.
Cole Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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