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The latest on Don and Jackie - Forwarding from Tom & Jillane: Fred Mar 25, 2015 10:57 PM
LAZY READERS is this Friday, the 27th! - LAZY READERS--MARCH! Friday, March 27th, 2015 7 p.m. Brianna W. Mar 23, 2015 4:31 PM
New FB page for P&P - BTW,  if you use Facebook, don't forget to check out our new FB page, and maybe give it a like:   Fred Mar 20, 2015 1:58 PM
Two Great Experiments: Obesity and >400ppm CO2 - I am sorry I missed the talk on Climate Change on Friday.  I understand the opening questions was: what statement do you agree with: Climate change is the grea Doug Mar 17, 2015 4:16 PM
TONIGHT: Dr. Keith Miller on: "CLIMATE CHANGE: THE EVIDENCE" - Fred Mar 13, 2015 4:49 PM
Tomorrow, Friday: DR. KEITH MILLER ON "CLIMATE CHANGE: THE EVIDENCE" - Fred Mar 12, 2015 4:50 PM
Fwd: P&P Finances - Hey P&P friends, Here are the current financials for our group, showing money given and spent last year through year-to-date. Fred Mar 11, 2015 7:20 PM
THIS FRIDAY: DR. KEITH MILLER ON "CLIMATE CHANGE: THE EVIDENCE" - Reserve your seat for this Fr Fred Mar 10, 2015 5:08 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Thanks, Keith.  You, Ray, and Captain Joy have been very helpful. eric Mar 8, 2015 7:11 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Ray: Keith M. Mar 7, 2015 5:06 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Eric: I see Ray has responded to some of your questions already.  I will add a little to way he said. Keith M. Mar 7, 2015 4:53 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Just saw a NY Times article last Sunday by Robb Willer, "Is the Environment a Moral Cause?" Willer's research showed that liberals were more likely to view environmental concerns as a moral issue, where conservatives did not see this as an issue of right Tricia Mar 7, 2015 4:14 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Thanks, Captain.  Your comments are very helpful and appreciated. eric Mar 7, 2015 3:39 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Captain J. Mar 7, 2015 2:14 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Thanks, Ray.  I was already aware of some of these answers, but I nee eric Mar 7, 2015 11:55 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - I can actually answer some of these:        How is light from the sun changed into heat or thermal energy when it reaches the earth? Light hits an object which absorbs some o Ray Mar 7, 2015 11:24 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - One question I think needs to be asked is that of when does climate change become harmfull? The earth has certainly seen much greater changes in climate, and with extreems well to either side of the present climate. How much of it is about Ray Mar 7, 2015 11:13 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Fred, Judy and I will be in Chicago next Friday, so we eric Mar 7, 2015 9:16 AM
Questions to discuss here, anyone, on climate change? - Anyone have any questions we can begin to discuss here in the days ahead before geologist Keith Miller comes to talk about climate change?  We c Fred Mar 6, 2015 5:27 PM
FRIDAY MARCH 13: PALEONTOLOGIST KEITH MILLER ON "CLIMATE CHANGE: THE EVIDENCE" - Mark your calendars now and reserve your seat for next week's P&P: Fred Mar 4, 2015 4:08 PM
Tonight: LEARN NEW STUFF at LAZY READERS - Fred Feb 27, 2015 4:46 PM
Tomorrow night: LAZY READERS: ALL THE BENEFITS OF READING ... - Tomorrow night, Friday, 7 pm, Lenexa Price Chopper: Fred Feb 26, 2015 7:26 PM
Tomorrow night: LAZY READERS: ALL THE BENEFITS OF READING ... - Fred Feb 26, 2015 6:59 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] I Dare You to read Science and Religion - Re:irreducable complexity. What good is half an eye? Ans: in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. If you can detect light and dark, you have an a David Feb 25, 2015 12:44 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] I Dare You to read Science and Religion - I suspect that people who get everything from television are intellectually much lazier than people who do the unthinkabe i.e. read a book. David Feb 25, 2015 12:32 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] I Dare You to read Science and Religion - A few points. The Discovery Institute is essentially a political advocacy organization; its basic intention is to require, or at least allow, the teaching in public schools that the origin of life and of species could not have occurred without some eric Feb 24, 2015 6:34 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Re: I Dare You to read Science and Religion - Have you read The Wedge? It is available as a pdf - frightening! The article I read in the book was around 2001. Mostly he was on about irred David Feb 24, 2015 5:54 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Re: I Dare You to read Science and Religion - I'm not contesting their status as "creationist"--so long as that term is understood broadly enough. I'm noting, however, that Dembski and the DI a Eugene C. Feb 24, 2015 5:39 PM
Re: I Dare You to read Science and Religion - Eugene, David Feb 24, 2015 5:22 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] I Dare You to read Science and Religion - David, Neither Dembski nor the Discovery Institute promote Young Earth Creationism. They're into ID of the sort that allows for an old earth. - Eugene Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2015, at 4:35 PM, David wrote: > > I Eugene C. Feb 24, 2015 4:50 PM
Fwd: [Provocateurs] Next Friday Feb 27 ... - This Friday, Feb 27, Lenexa Price Fred Feb 24, 2015 4:50 PM
I Dare You to read Science and Religion - I Dare You to read Science and Religion: Are they compatible, an anthology Edited by Paul Kurtz. Don recommended the book The Turbulent Universe by Paul Kurtz - thanks Don! Looking for that book, I found Science and Religion, an issue I have been intere David Feb 24, 2015 4:35 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - OK, everybody — we have Raj scheduled to give a presentation on "AI: The Facts Behind the Science Fiction" at our next open slot for a topic night, which is May 8.  You can RSVP to show your interest in this at: Fred Feb 23, 2015 2:37 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - This could prove to be a fascinating evening. I hope you will schedule it when I am available, but even if I am not  I still hope you will. Suzi On Feb 20,[masked]:34 PM, "Merilee" &l Suzi G. Feb 21, 2015 9:40 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - Raj, Thanks for offering. I find the subject interesting and would try to attend. Pam On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Raj < Pam L. Feb 21, 2015 9:36 AM
Re: Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - I am interested in this subject also and would love David C. Feb 21, 2015 7:51 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - OSLO (Reuters) - Tom W. Feb 21, 2015 6:55 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Dan, The Bible is a work of historical fiction, so, the Bible is spurious by Christopher's definition. There are some housekeeping books which are David Feb 20, 2015 5:22 PM
Next Friday Feb 27 ... - Hey everybody, No P&P tonight, but RSVP now for next Friday Fred Feb 20, 2015 5:10 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Christopher, My current estimate for the existence of a physicaly existing Jesus of the Bible is around 5%, which necessarily means that it was all David Feb 20, 2015 5:04 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - I know many, many Muslims. 0% are extremists. Pulling a number of 20% out of the air isn't really fair and probably isn't all that accurate.  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 7:16 P Cal Feb 20, 2015 3:36 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Eric, I enjoy issuing Fatwas!! I'm back on the 24th. Anytime after is fine with me. Dan Dan Feb 20, 2015 2:32 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - I am interested and I know many others would be also. I will be lo Merilee Feb 20, 2015 2:30 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Dan, I didn't say "most," I said "many."  (I have, ho eric Feb 20, 2015 1:56 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - Raj, I think you had us when you mentioned AI.   I'm guessing that even the most mathematically challenged of us would be fascinated by such a presentation as long as we kept being reminded: Fred Feb 20, 2015 1:29 PM
Would y'all like to listen to me ramble about Machine Learning and AI - Hello Provocateurs,  I would love to present on a brief history, the current state of the art and moonshot endeavors in Machine Learning (Algorithms that help a machine become better at a narrow task with 'experience') and Idea Raj Feb 20, 2015 10:42 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Christopher, Thanks for the explanation. I certainly did not see the word in its broader sense as you point out and certai Dan Feb 19, 2015 9:28 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Dan, Christopher Feb 19, 2015 9:11 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Eric, How do we know that most Muslims do not agree with terrorism when, it seems to me, most are silent on the subj Dan Feb 19, 2015 7:16 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Christopher, I do not understand why you use the term "spurious prayer". Enlighten me. Dan Dan Feb 19, 2015 6:49 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Correction: The spurious prayer of Jesus from the cross to forgive his executioners is Luke 23.34, and does n Christopher Feb 19, 2015 6:02 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Christopher Feb 19, 2015 5:52 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - With all due respect Pam, your thesis is simply a "bridge too far" and would require a suspension of a reasonable interpretation of the facts. On Feb 18,[masked]:26 PM, "Pam Lovett" < Peter G. Feb 18, 2015 1:20 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - I don't believe we have to go back 300 years to find atrocities committed in the name of Christianity. If disaster Capitalism, which oftentimes operates under a Christian veil, is taken into account, atrocities have taken the stage Pam L. Feb 18, 2015 12:25 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - In light of this conversation, I am posting a letter to the editor that I just sent to the Manhattan Mercury. To the Editor: Keith M. Feb 18, 2015 11:27 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - I just watched an episode of Charlie Rose where he had a guest who reaffirmed what you just wrote Eric. (Except for Jesus and Mohammed). Craig Feb 18, 2015 10:24 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - Preview not available eric Feb 18, 2015 10:14 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - FreeDomainRadio.com plans for a multi generational project of better parenting to turn things toward peace Brandon D. Feb 17, 2015 10:50 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Islam and violence - John, That was an excellent piece and leads me to reaffirm my belief, that this battle against "Radical Islam" that we are currently facing will take at least another generation or two to defeat. Peter G. Feb 17, 2015 8:22 PM
Islam and violence - John M. Feb 17, 2015 7:55 PM
Fwd: from IGGY - do you live on a large property? any help in storing a 16 ft boat? - Forwarding a message from Iggy Dybal to the group: Fred Feb 16, 2015 1:01 PM
Tonight: DR. JAMES SIGLER: THE HUMAN BACK - Fred Feb 13, 2015 5:28 PM
Tomorrow night: DR. JAMES SIGLER: BACK TALK - Fred Feb 12, 2015 5:27 PM
This Friday: DR. JAMES SIGLER: BACK TALK - Fred Feb 11, 2015 5:49 PM
This Friday: DR. JAMES SIGLER: THE HUMAN BODY: THE BACK - This FRIDAY TH Fred Feb 10, 2015 4:52 PM
“What important truth do very few people agree with you on?” and Actionable Information, Wearables, IoT and Seeing a Doctor? - Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend Dr. James Sigler event because of a prior commitment. Related to Dr. James Sigler talk, please see the Doug Feb 8, 2015 11:46 AM
Next Friday: DR. JAMES SIGLER: THE HUMAN BODY: THE BACK - Hey everybody, No P&P tonight.  But a week from t Fred Feb 6, 2015 5:01 PM
Morris - For those who know Morris Fishman, his weakened heart gave him a close call recently, but he's ou Fred Feb 6, 2015 4:24 PM
My best answer to why I believe - Fred Feb 2, 2015 5:30 PM
Fwd: P&P Financials - Hey all you provocateurs, Just sending on our current financials for the P&P group, so you can see where we stand after buying the PA system and m Fred Jan 26, 2015 6:56 PM
Cool science links - John M. Jan 24, 2015 6:19 PM
TONIGHT, Friday: LAZY READERS - All book discussion! - Fred Jan 23, 2015 6:17 PM
TOMORROW NIGHT, Friday: LAZY READERS - All book discussion! - Fred Jan 22, 2015 5:19 PM
This Friday: LAZY READERS - All book discussion! - Fred Jan 21, 2015 4:49 PM
This Friday: LAZY READERS - JANUARY! - Fred Jan 20, 2015 4:52 PM
No P&P tonight, but RSVP now for next Friday ... - Fred Jan 16, 2015 5:20 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Thoughts on Martin Luther King, Jr., the 19th Amendment and Voting - Willard ". Jan 15, 2015 9:47 AM
Re: [Provocateurs] For your approval: Here's what we'd like to do with P&P's cash: - I think it sounds like a great idea. Thanks for all you do Fred Pam On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Fred < Pam L. Jan 14, 2015 6:31 PM
Thoughts on Martin Luther King, Jr., the 19th Amendment and Voting - Martin Luther King, Jr. would have bee Doug Jan 14, 2015 4:53 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] P&P Financials - Meetup rates greg Jan 13, 2015 6:56 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] For your approval: Here's what we'd like to do with P&P's cash: - Sounds fantastic! Do it! Kathryn Jan 13, 2015 2:15 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] For your approval: Here's what we'd like to do with P&P's cash: - Sounds good to me. David Jan 13, 2015 1:04 PM
For your approval: Here's what we'd like to do with P&P's cash: - Hey everybody, So is it OK if I keep using the cash in our P&P kitty for my personal Fred Heeren date night fund? Fred Jan 13, 2015 12:55 PM
P&P Financials - Hey Provocateurs, Here's our up-to-date, boring financial statement.  But it does raise the question, what are we going to do with this amazingly huge wad o Fred Jan 13, 2015 12:49 PM
Let there be dark. Let there be doubt - Just finished the book by Richard Panek “The 4 Percent Universe: Dark Matter, Dark Energy, and the Race to Discover the Rest of Reality”  I enjoyed the backstory and history of Doug Jan 11, 2015 5:59 PM
Tonight: Dr. Leroy Seat: "SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE" - Fred Jan 9, 2015 5:53 PM
Tomorrow night, Friday: Dr. Leroy Seat: "SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE" - Fred Jan 8, 2015 4:27 PM
This Friday night: Everything you ever wanted to know about: "SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE" - Fred Jan 7, 2015 5:42 PM
This Friday night: Dr. Leroy Seat on "SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE" - Fred Jan 5, 2015 5:11 PM
Next P&P: Dr. Leroy Seat on "Separation of Church and State" - He Fred Jan 2, 2015 5:19 PM
Just wanted to say ... - Hey you provocateurs and peaceniks, Just wanted to say: Fred Jan 1, 2015 5:45 PM
RE: [Provocateurs] The Fermi Paradox - John M. Dec 14, 2014 8:07 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] The Fermi Paradox - Of course there is nothing to say multiple hypothesis of this type may not be working together- for example a highly advanced civilization may well have examined our planet during their colonization stage billions of years ago and decided t Ray Dec 13, 2014 4:56 PM
The Fermi Paradox - Here is a blog that you may find interesting related to the Fermi Paradox.   Doug Dec 13, 2014 9:06 AM
TONIGHT, Friday, Dec. 12: EVOLUTION DISCUSSION — & LAZY READERS - Fred Dec 12, 2014 4:44 PM
TOMORROW NIGHT, Friday, Dec. 12: EVOLUTION DISCUSSION — & LAZY READERS - Fred Dec 11, 2014 4:59 PM
Fwd: [Provocateurs] This Friday, Dec. 12: EVOLUTION DISCUSSION — & LAZY READERS - Fred Dec 10, 2014 3:50 PM
Fwd: From IGGY - carpooling tonight from Johnson County to Lees Summit Fred's debate with a creationist today? - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: [address removed] Fred Dec 10, 2014 3:47 PM
Re: [Provocateurs] Evolution - Creation Debate this Wednesday - Good luck, Fred. I'll not be there, as I've found that without closed captions I can get little out of it. Bob Hooper Robert H. Dec 8, 2014 7:33 PM
Evolution - Creation Debate this Wednesday - Hey Everybody, Fred Dec 8, 2014 5:33 PM

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