First Meetup!! - Science & History vs. Christianity

You are about to be a pioneer....

Our first meetup will be June 2 at ESpaces Belle Meade.

Nothing to prepare for, just come ready to contribute and discuss. We'll get to know each other, have a few drinks, watch our first discussion, and then have one ourselves.

To get us started, we decided to view a video series published by author and pastor Tim Keller.  He leads discussions with people of all beliefs, and the first one we'll watch addresses these 2 questions: 

• Has science made Christianity irrelevant?

• Can we trust the historicity and authenticity of the Bible?

Once we watch, we'll then talk about those questions ourselves.

The goal is to have lots of dialogue and lots of different viewpoints here. Come prepared to contribute!

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  • Justin O.

    So bummed I missed last week! Who's all coming to the next one on the 9th? I'm recording Monday until 7pm, but I'm hoping for no overtime so I can head over and listen.

    June 6

  • Doug

    Excellent, appears we needed more time to talk and chat, plenty more topics for conversation I'd say. I have a lot more to share, especially about how I ended up where I am with respect to my views on religion/faith/God/gods.

    1 · June 3

    • Tim

      That's a topic I would be very interested in hearing. I hope to soon!

      June 3

  • Larry I. J.

    Agreed. This was an excellent, non-divisive conversation. I really enjoyed it and hated to leave at 8:30, but I had a commitment in Donelson at 9:00. Are we meeting again? One week, two weeks?? :)

    2 · June 3

    • Tim

      Thanks Larry. I just created the second meetup... Next Monday. Hopefully everyone is able to make it?

      June 3

  • Gerrit

    Mondays are good for me!

    June 3

  • anthneeh g.

    awesome! being it such a sensitive and sometimes almost a taboo subject

    June 3

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      June 3

    • Doug

      ROFL

      June 3

  • Tim

    Thanks everyone for the great feedback. I really enjoyed hearing from everyone, and am anxious for more! I very much appreciated everyone's honesty, openness, and willingness to voice their beliefs & opinions. It takes courage to do, but it creates a great atmosphere to be a part of. I'll go ahead and schedule the next meetup for next week. Hope you all can make it!

    June 3

  • Gerrit

    I enjoyed the exchanges and the film (which I didn't think I was going to enjoy, but did). This is the kind of mature salon I've been looking for, where people are able to exchange ideas and beliefs without feeling threatened. I am certainly not here to threaten anyone but simply to learn and put my own ideas out there, to see how well they hold up. If they don't hold up, then what good are they to me? I'm not afraid for my religion to be vulnerable. It's a good thing to shed old skins from time to time. As Bob Dylan once said, "He who's not busy being born is busy dying." I never want to become jaded so that I don't think I can learn something new. Although I don't worship anything, perhaps standing in awe of art, nature, or an idea I haven't heard before -- experiencing that awe -- is as close to "worship" as I get. And that's good enough for me. Enjoyed meeting you all and special thanks to Tim for initiating this!

    1 · June 3

  • Doug

    I think this went really well. Apparently we need more time for discussion, heh.

    June 3

  • Keri R.

    Great! I was so impressed with the exchange of ideas sans rancor

    1 · June 2

  • Lee

    Excellent mix of people with different beliefs. It yied a very interesting discussion.

    June 2

  • Sofia

    so sad I'm going to have to miss this but I just got called into work :( hope all goes well, and I'll catch ya next time!

    June 2

  • A former member
    A former member

    As someone with a background in science, Ive had to answer questions from children with parents who have problems with the idea that the earth is older than a few thousand years, we share genetic provenance with other hominid and protohominid species, etc. My over-simplified answer (fun size for kids) is that religion and science ask and answer different questions. In that case, since the class is about science, that's what we're going to talk about. And yes, I do "believe" (such a weird choice of words to apply to a set of theories) because I've met Drs. Leakey and Johanson, heard their talks, seen the pictures...and kiddos? They're legit.

    I bring all this up because I'm really struggling with pulling my spiritual life into the discussion and by extension deciding whether I'm in or not here. I know there are people who see nothing wrong with pushing their beliefs. I get it. But do I have the energy to find myself having to defend what is something that is really up to the individual?

    May 22, 2014

    • Doug

      I do find it slightly ironic that the exact questioning/interpretati­on my religious parents taught me led me away from their religion. The very religion my mother devoted her life to, heh.

      1 · May 27

    • Sofia

      very well said, Doug.

      May 27

  • Janek John P.

    You can have a religious affiliation (Catholic with a small 'c') but I question 'The Bible' and all religious teachings.

    I believe 'The Bible' is a book written by man but I also realize that religion provides a sense of community that people often need. I believe in science (The new Cosmos TV series has been discussing this as well).

    I believe in the golden rule is the rule that we should follow ( all religions communicate this ).

    But I must admit I do sometimes treat people not the way I would want to be treated but the way they need to be treated.

    I am looking forward to meeting new people and hearing al of your views.

    1 · May 23, 2014

  • Katy

    After reading all the comments here I'm sorry I'll be out of town for the first meeting. Looking forward to the next discussion.

    May 22, 2014

    • Tim

      No problem... we'll be doing some more of these if this first one goes well. Hope to see you around some other time!

      May 22, 2014

  • Doug

    It seems the majority of people going to this first meetup have religious affiliation. Not that there's anything wrong with this, but I don't want to be lectured or otherwise treated as a person who needs to be saved through the teachings of [insert your religion here]. So my question is as an atheist will my views be tolerated/respected? Or perhaps this is not a group for me?

    1 · May 20, 2014

    • Tim

      Sofie, so glad you joined! To answer your question, if we are able to have an open and honest discussion about faith, doubts, and anything in between, where people actually feel free to openly share because they know people will actually listen and not stereotype, etc., I think we'll have succeeded. I was a part of such group earlier when I was in school, but have found it strangely difficult to find since. Seems to me that people often have a lot to say about this subject, but no real outlet for it.

      May 22, 2014

    • Janek John P.

      Watch this link with a debate between Bill Nye (The Science Guy) and Ken Ham (Answers in Genesis CEO) - is creation a viable model of origins in today's modern, scientific era?

      May 22, 2014

  • Sofia

    Very interested in which direction this could go!

    May 21, 2014

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