Muffins & Metaphors

  • September 19, 2012 · 6:30 PM
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Welcome to another edition of Redmond Roaring Writers, our bi-weekly meeting at Redmond Panera.

Panera has free Wi-Fi.

Panera does request that groups order at least something. They have a decent selection of sandwiches, soups, and salads. Consider arriving a little early if you plan to eat, it may also be a good time to meet your fellow writers! We usually chat until ~7 and then work on critique.

Please consider bringing some writing to share, even if it's your first time. We keep our feedback constructive and supportive.
Since we critique work during the meeting, keep your submission relatively short.
I suggest limiting your piece to under 1500 words/six double-spaced pages.
I also suggest double-space (so people can write comments).
Check the "Yes" count before you depart to make sure you have enough copies.

Also if you want more in-depth feedback, consider posting your work in .DOC(Word 97) or RTF format by the Sunday before the meeting and I'll send out a note to let the group know it's up there.

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  • Ginger

    OK, re the nitrogen, it would take rapidly vaporizing ~6 liters to cause an issue in an enclosed average size vehicle. That's a lot. When we use nitrogen in a clinic setting, it has to be vented allowing evaporation or it will explode the container. It's not hazardous unless the container is large and spills all at once in a relatively small space. You need to have a large amount vaporizing very rapidly, but it could be done in a fictional story.

    Re my story, my apologies. No wonder the ending scene didn't make sense. I have no idea why, but the printer left off the last half page and repeated a section instead. Hopefully it was a one time issue with the printer. I've never had it happen before. I'll proof read my material after it is printed next time.

    September 20, 2012

    • Ginger

      Tracy, I looked at the specifics of every one of those occupational deaths where specifics were available. They all involved either attaching nitrogen tanks where O2 tanks should have been; cleaning closed spaces, like a tank, nitrogen had been stored in; entering a space that had literally been flushed with nitrogen; or the deaths involved a large industrial spill. There was a more useful source covering using liquid nitrogen to chill foods in cooking. The advice was, don't spill the whole container (a dewar) in an elevator, and in fact, don't ride in the elevator with the dewar.

      September 20, 2012

    • Ginger

      While a nitrogen tank is sealed, it has heavy duty walls to handle the pressure. A dewar is designed to literally allow the nitrogen to evaporate. Often in a clinic one keeps a dewar and the steady evaporation is not a problem. That's why I looked into the volume that would be required to cause a problem. And yes, one need not replace the air, only dilute the O2 from 21% down to 17% or lower. But it still takes a fair amount of nitrogen to do that, 7 liters for the airspace in a car would be a fair amount. A dewar to transport 1 gallon in liquid form would be large, as it has to be seriously insulated to keep the nitrogen liquid for any length of time.

      September 20, 2012

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