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Re: [RondoutValleyPermaculture] Scoping out a Woodland Permaculture Project - Report

From: user 1.
Sent on: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:44 AM

I live in Poughkeepsie, work at the CIA three days each week, and teach Yoga classes two days per week, but I would be willing to offer my volunteer assistance as I am very interested in permaculture. learning more about it, and getting invovled.

I cannot make the Monday meetings as Monday is one of the days I teach Yoga, and it is a long distance to come from across the river, but once you determine the date for your group to help with the cardboard and planting, I would be interested.

Also, the CIA has lots of cardboard. I could ask if you could have it, but I don't know how to get it to you.

Just let me know. 

Good luck,


>>> Judith Karpova <[address removed]> 09/11/11 5:47 PM >>>
Hi, Fellow Permaculturists,
My apologies for the even less than last-minute mailing re: looking at my property; I had sent it out earlier but didn't realize the server was holding it up for my confirmation.  So just take it as a head's up that I want to start a local permaculture project that is open to everyone's participation.
Report on the Walkthrough with Sanjay Mishra:
Sanjay came up, he's very knowledgeable, and with his help I made some initial decisions:
1.  The smaller area of the meadow, which is easily accessible from Sundown Road, should be used, not the larger area.  "Start small!" said Sanjay.  It's about 1.25 acres.  The soil is soft and pretty rich, it was farmland decades ago.  I will get it tested.  (The larger area, on the other side of the creek, requires a rambling walk through a woods.)  I'll walk it out to get an approximate square footage.
2.  The fallen trees from the storm need to be cut up and chipped, and set aside for mulch.
3.  We should try to get enough cardboard to cover the ground and then cover the cardboard with woodchips.  So a source of cardboard is needed.  One idea:  perhaps some of the Town of Rochester's waste stream of cardboard can be delivered instead directly to the property.  I can also receive it in my garage, I live around the corner from the property.  
4.  I will contact a local business I've already worked with to cut up the trees and chip them, they're huge and should be professionally cut.  I/we can contact other tree/forestry companies and the town and ask them to deliver wood chips to the site.  (Does anyone have or have access to a chipper?)  Or, again, perhaps the Highway Department of the Town of Rochester can offload some of their woodchips to the site.  We can approach the Town Supervisor regarding this, and the cardboard; if there's a core group we can write a letter to Town Supervisor Carl Chipman and also notify the Town Environmental Conservation Commission.
5.  The cardboard should be laid out sometime at the end of October, after the first few frosts, and then the wood chips spread over it.  This is a big project and will need a bunch of people.  I'm happy to publicize it, throw a party around it, and provide food and drinks on site/at my house. 
All of the above will get the property ready to be planted in the spring. 
6.  A flexible plan needs to be made of how to install the planting
I can't do this alone.  It will need at least a small group to plan it, throw ideas around and be a core group for some of the initial work.  Other groups and individuals can be invited to do some of the larger work projects.  We can let whoever wants to be involved use a portion of the land.  I'm in the renewable energy field.  But without local, healthy food production, we can't move into sustainability.
If enough people can pitch as a core in we can publicize it to other local organizations and to the local press, and get good publicity for Permaculture.  I had 22 people pitch in for my Trees for Tribs project -- Trout Unlimited, the Scouts and other groups helped me with the tree-planting on this site, so this is kind of continuation.  The trees were planted to hold the banks of the creek.  Now, three years later, the land itself can be turned into a healthy, productive resource of local food that the whole community can participate in and we can all learn together.
See you October 3rd and the Meetup.  Please call or email me with any ideas,
Judith Karpova
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